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AdolfOliverBush 09-07-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17090429)
Last year wasn't a contract year.

It was to him. He knew he was either getting a raise or not playing for KC, as ill-advised as that stance is.

ntexascardfan 09-07-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17090434)
Quinnen Williams got 13 sacks from the inside.

His 'strong case to argue' got him $24 million.

Dexter Lawrence was actually a MORE efficient interior pass rusher than Jones - it got him $23.5.

Your entire argument requires that you ignore everything else that happened on the DT market this off-season. And ignore age.

And Quinnen Williams is also only 25 years old.

notorious 09-07-2023 10:50 AM

Detoilet needs DLine help.

Maybe this is a showcase before trade deal.

-King- 09-07-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 17090464)
And Quinnen Williams is also only 25 years old.

I mean, over the last 4 years he has 41 sacks to Williams's 27.5. That's a significant production gap.

Balto 09-07-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17090467)
Detoilet needs DLine help.

Maybe this is a showcase before trade deal.

Jones takes the plane back with the Lions?

RealSNR 09-07-2023 10:57 AM

Bob Dole used to work for the Chiefs? You could try PMing him

staylor26 09-07-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17090474)
I mean, over the last 4 years he has 41 sacks to Williams's 27.5. That's a significant production gap.

Not really a fair comparison. Williams is a rare blend of ****ing huge combined with pass rush ability. He's much better against the run than Jones.

Balto 09-07-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17090474)
I mean, over the last 4 years he has 41 sacks to Williams's 27.5. That's a significant production gap.

I think its hard to compare the two when Williams is just now getting into his prime. Jones is at the end of his. Jones had 2 sacks his rookie year and 5.5 his second year. Williams had 2.5 and 7. Year 3 Jones destroys Williams but year 4 Jones drops back down.

RunKC 09-07-2023 11:05 AM

X isn't letting me embed for some reason so here's the link:

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/169982...YJXccxRIbYwg3A

Katz brothers are going full reerun. They might actually advise him to return in week 8.

Good luck dumbass. Have fun either doing this song and dance again next year at $24 million or being shipped off to a shithole like Atlanta or Chicago

JPH83 09-07-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17090479)
Not really a fair comparison. Williams is a rare blend of ****ing huge combined with pass rush ability. He's much better against the run than Jones.

Surely the fair comparison is also their first 4 years each, where Jones has 33 I believe, so the sack gap narrows

JPH83 09-07-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17090482)
I think its hard to compare the two when Williams is just now getting into his prime. Jones is at the end of his. Jones had 2 sacks his rookie year and 5.5 his second year. Williams had 2.5 and 7. Year 3 Jones destroys Williams but year 4 Jones drops back down.

Beat me to it!

digger 09-07-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17090484)
X isn't letting me embed for some reason so here's the link:

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/169982...YJXccxRIbYwg3A

Katz brothers are going full reerun. They might actually advise him to return in week 8.

Good luck dumbass. Have fun either doing this song and dance again next year at $24 million or being shipped off to a shithole like Atlanta or Chicago


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From The Insiders on NFL+: Status quo with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DL Chris Jones, who obviously will miss tonight&#39;s game. <a href="https://t.co/GLVctQ9GUR">pic.twitter.com/GLVctQ9GUR</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1699820310369910991?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

JPH83 09-07-2023 11:14 AM

So Jones is what 3 years older than Williams and in his first 4 years had 5.5 sacks more. Is he a better player? Probably, but I'm not sure at 31 he's better than Williams at 28, and he could be less rounded. He should earn a little above Williams and that's what he was offered

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 09-07-2023 11:18 AM

Yea I can’t embed anymore too on X :(

RunKC 09-07-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17090474)
I mean, over the last 4 years he has 41 sacks to Williams's 27.5. That's a significant production gap.

It's not as much about what you've done but about what you're projecting. Chris is about to turn 30. Williams just had a breakout season with 12 sacks, 28 QB hits and 12 TFL's with literal garbage for an offense.

He's gonna be better than Chris this year IMO


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