You've already been corrected on this several times. Kelce played 15 regular season games this year.

Either quit being obtuse or learn to ****ing read. One or the other. Your pick.

In case you didn't know that said Most yards I'm CHIEFS history. Not sure that says anything about Andrews. Only on Planet Chiefs only on Planet Chiefs.

Kelce is second in most receiving yards in playoff history, only behind Jerry Rice.

I think there has been discussion about other position groups. I'm happy to go there.

QB: Chiefs
RB: Chiefs (assuming Pacheco plays)
WR: Ravens
TE: Chiefs
OL: Push (Ravens better at T, Chiefs better at IOL, good overall units)

DL: Chiefs
LB: Ravens
CB: Chiefs
S: Ravens

K: Slight edge Ravens (both excellent)
P: Chiefs

What I think is being missed outside Kansas City is how good the Chiefs' defense is. There's some talk about it, sure, but many are still overlooking it and looking at the Ravens' flashy, blowout wins instead. The Miami blowout particularly seems to garner a lot of credit, despite the Chiefs' essentially giving up in 2 games (against healthier versions of the Miami offense) what the Ravens gave up in one game. There is a perception the Ravens D is on a different tier from the Chiefs, and I think that's wrong/off.

The Chiefs defense is better than any D the Ravens have played this year. (Same can be said of the Ravens re: the Chiefs).

So then you're on to comparing the offenses and what they can do versus the opponents defense. And that's where the QB comparison discussion really takes hold, because it starts with elite Ds and how they handle QBs.

The Chiefs' offense has been held back LESS by its WR room talent level and more by penalties and drops. The scheme is still strong, and Mahomes is still performing at the highest level (Christmas Day game being a notable exception).

If KC's receiving targets catch the ball and the team avoids high penalty counts again, the Chiefs' offense adds the efficiency back and becomes damn difficult to stop, again.

The Ravens are a really good team. I don't think they're the unstoppable juggernaut superteam that DVOA would suggest they are (as we've discussed). And we've all watched the Chiefs and Mahomes dismantle #1 defenses they're not supposed to be able to handle repeatedly since he took the QB1 role, so... we're confident.

You'll have to do your own home work...

Mark Andrews would be like 5th all time… at best… in the pantheon of Chiefs TE’s.

Kelce and Tony G head and shoulders above him.

Andrews would be in the Tony Moeaki/Keith Cash kiddie pool.

No, you're misrepresenting my comments. My comments are solely intended to point out that comparing the Ravens franchise history to the history of any other team in the NFL is like comparing apples and oranges. Your all-time winning percentage is heavily skewed by the fact that you have a start date that is nothing more than your moving date. it allows the Ravens to compare their all-time winning percentage to others while using an artificial timeline.

You referenced the entirety of your franchise history in the comment that I originally referenced. I am merely pointing out that such a comment is heavily biased by the fact that you're not a normal franchise.

Wanna know who cares about it? The Steelers. And the Ravens. It's the realest rivalry the NFL has. And built on mutual respect. Something I'm not quite sure is possible as between the Chiefs and anyone else.

I'm getting it now on Planet Chief nothingnwlse matters but Planet Chief. Got it now.

The fact the Steelers and Baltimore care about it doesn’t make it a nationally relevant rivalry. ROFL

Try again.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-s-best-...belichick-and-


I know that this is old (2021) but your rivalry isn't even listed...

bubble boy

There is no team that is playing this laye on the season that feels like they are playing with House money. In 2000 we weren't playing with House Money we were he'll bent on proving we were the best defense ever and the only way to do that is win a SB. In 2012 we were he'll bent on sending Ray Lewis out on top and they o lt way to do that is to won the SB.

If you are as great as you say you are and Mahomes wants to be the GOAT. He's going to need more SBs. 7- 2 won't do it.

Yeah, that's why it's so strange ya'll are here trying so hard to convince us the Ravens are amazing because of regular season MVPs and DVOA.... I would have guessed the bar was set higher for the franchise.

I get it for say Bengals fans, who went from one of the worst franchises ever to being in AFCCG/SBs, or Bills fans who spent 20 years looking up at Brady..... you go from 5-win seasons to the playoffs and you think the hard part is over and all playoff teams are basically the same.

Hell, we did it as Chiefs fans for decades.... "just get into the playoffs and anything can happen!"... and then demanding respect because they finally won a WC game.

I'd think a franchise who's had the full range of great regular season/one and done, Super Bowl victories, etc; wouldn't so loudly count their eggs before they're hatched. :shrug:

Two people have the most pressure on them this weekend… Kyle Shanahan and Lamar.

They are currently defined by their past postseason failures.

They have #1 seeded teams that are home favorites.

We know that Lamar has usually choked under that pressure.