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milkman 08-02-2005 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
I am in agreement with Parker on this one. CP is in charge so he won't hire Al since they don't get along. The next head coach could/will be:

1. Herm Edwards
2. Bill Cowher
3. Stoops or Ferentz

CP will pick the guy he is most comfortable with and that aint Al.

If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.

Chiefs Pantalones 08-02-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.

Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. ROFL But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.

milkman 08-02-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. ROFL But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.

Yeah, I saw it.

It actually kind of felt like watching The Twilight Zone.

nychief 08-02-2005 08:51 PM

We are going to be 3-0 going into the Phily game.... lets stop the worry.

Chiefs Pantalones 08-02-2005 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
Yeah, I saw it.

It actually kind of felt like watching The Twilight Zone.

lol, yep.

the Talking Can 08-02-2005 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.

I'm repeating myself, but "Ditto!"...NO ****ING MARTY SPAWNS....I can not handle seeing the west coast offense back at Arrowhead...If I have to watch Herm's OC dial up a 3 yard swing pass on 3rd down I'll be forced to root for the Royals.

I agree with the premise that CP is not likely to hire AS. But if he hires Edwards it is right back to the ****ing dark ages. I'd much rather roll the dice with a college coach at that point.

I don't watch college ball real closely, but does anyone else think Stoops has a little bit of Butch Davis in him? By which I mean, his bullshit routine works in college but won't cut it with pro players...I don't know why I get a wierd vibe when I see Stoops.

the Talking Can 08-02-2005 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. ROFL But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.

excellent post...watching Marty succumb to his own weaknesses again was almost sad...but mostly funny...

milkman 08-02-2005 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
excellent post...watching Marty succumb to his own weaknesses again was almost sad...but mostly funny...

And inevitable.

tk13 08-02-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief
We are going to be 3-0 going into the Phily game.... lets stop the worry.

If we can beat Oakland and Denver back to back weeks on the road on national TV, you can start printing playoff tickets.

Chiefs Pantalones 08-02-2005 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
If we can beat Oakland and Denver back to back weeks on the road on national TV, you can start printing playoff tickets.

I think we have a great chance in doing so. If our offense can get off to a fast start, I think we could get to 4-0. I think at worst we'll be 3-1, with the sole loss being to Denver, but like I mentioned, if the ball bounces our way, we could get that game.

HemiEd 08-02-2005 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Start fresh?? That's the DUMBEST idea I've heard in a long, long time. The reason teams like SF, Pittsburgh and Dallas were so successful for so long is that they didn't change their offensive system. The Chiefs finally have a great offense in place - a great system that utilizes the best of every player, whether it be offensive lineman, wide receivers, QB or running back. To completely change and bring in some college coach or another re-hashed old timer would be a waste of time. This team needs offensive continuity if it's going to continue to be successful.

They don't need another Marty Clone (Edwards, Cowher, etc.) or a West Coast offense disciple. Saunders needs to be given a minimum of 2 years as head coach. He's been in the top 5 of every offensive category since he's arrived and yes, any other coach who's ever done something close to that (whether it be on the offensive or defensive side of the ball) has become a head coach. Think Billick, Fassel, Nolan, Marvin Lewis, Dom Capers, etc. I don't want to see Saunders as a head coach anywhere else other than KC.

Dane
~Doesn't believe that interview anyway


I do not think I could agree much more. :hail: :hail: rep

HemiEd 08-02-2005 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch
Hiring a HC that wants to hire completely different players to implement his offense/defense would be idiotic.

A lot of the starters on our offense are old but there's also a lot of young depth. Green likely has 2, perhaps 3 years left in him. LJ will step in for Priest, and he's proven he can produce. Gonzo probably has 5 years left. If we can find a way to replace Roaf and Shields with quality starters our offense will still be top 5 in the league.

Our defense is young. All three of our starting LB's are young. Outside of hicks our whole defensive line is young. Knight and Surtain aren't spring chickens but we've got plenty of depth at S and our only real area of concern would be CB.

The only holes this team will have over the next 2 to 3 years will be Offensive line, CB, and WR...


This has turned into a great thread, rep. :clap:

htismaqe 08-03-2005 07:19 AM

Holthus on Des Moines radio...8/3 update
 
First of all, I have to say -- Holthus has gone from a mediocre interview to BRUTAL. The guy is an idiot savant. He rambled on about his adoption of Iowa high school football teams (1A or 2A only) and the Earlham Cardinals. He talked about Pappajohn's Pizza (of course) and he went on and on about the possibility of Kirk Ferentz coaching both the Hawkeyes and Chiefs. :banghead:

Anyway, he did clarify or expound on a couple of his statements from previous interviews:

1) We have to get off to a good start this year. Yesterday, it was about the assistants looking for other jobs. Today it was the danger that a poor start would cause everybody -- players, coaches, and fans -- knowing that this is Vermeil's last year, to start discussing who the next coach would be instead of worrying about this season. I think from the brew-ha-ha yesterday we had on the very subject, despite the fact that the season hasn't even started, shows that he's probably right.

2) Ferentz being mentioned as a HC candidate. Bob Stoops would be in there too.

The only thing of substance that he talked about was YET ANOTHER back injury, this time to Jason Dunn.

ROYC75 08-03-2005 07:33 AM

It's just another day

Du du du du du du, it's just another day
Du du du du du du, it's just another day

KChiefs1 08-03-2005 11:14 AM

I just talked to a Iowa Hawkeye fan & here's exactly what he said about Ferentz leaving:

Ferentz signed an eight year contract last year....he isn't leaving Iowa maybe because him and his wife didn't want to have to have their children move schools again. His contract expires the year their youngest son graduates college....besides he stated his dream job is the Pittsburgh Steelers, which he stated that is the ONLY place he would leave the Hawkeyes.


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