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Lzen 10-03-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo
First of all KU has no Football tradition unless being awful and impotent is a tradition. Secondly, KU's football fanbase leaves at halftime to go to the wheel. KSU's Football tradition and history is checkered but they have been and will continue to be a national power while KU tries to find it's own dick with both hands. Silly KU football fans think a good basketball team and a pretty campus means tradition.

Wow, you are such a KSU homer it's rather comical.

Lzen 10-03-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo
Relax huge, McKinney is right.

If he is correct, then explain why last year KU put a whoopin on your team?

Coach 10-03-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
If he is correct, then explain why last year KU put a whoopin on your team?

Easy. Homefield advantage. When was the last time KU won in Manhattan?

Lzen 10-03-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement
You may have turned the corner, but you've lost to KU the last 2 years.

Actually, that should say 2 out of the last 3 years. KSU won in Manhattan 2 years ago, 12-3.

Lzen 10-03-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
I don't hear too many people pimping Jack Parr, Bob Boozer or Mitch Richmond.

If the context of the discussion is KSU hoops, I'm certain you would hear those names.

Lzen 10-03-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach
Easy. Homefield advantage. When was the last time KU won in Manhattan?

Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.
:shake:

Skip Towne 10-03-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
If the context of the discussion is KSU hoops, I'm certain you would hear those names.

I wish KU had some big names like that.

Coach 10-03-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.
:shake:

KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

Saulbadguy 10-03-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
If he is correct, then explain why last year KU put a whoopin on your team?

I think the biggest reason was Josh Freeman turning the ball over 6 times. Then it was Jon Cornish running for 200+ yards.

ChiefsGirl 10-03-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
Nope, that is not good enough. If KSU is sooooo much better than KU (as was insinuated), then homefield would not mean much. And it certainly wouldn't mean KU pretty much doubling KSU's score. A perfect example would be the whoopings that KSU put on KU in Lawrence during the Terry Allen years.
:shake:

By that logic, OU and CU are comparible programs because Colorado beat OU at home?

K-State had a first year coach last year and they were coming off one of the biggest upsets of the year last year. Is it a coincidence that KU continues to schedule their bye week the week before the K-State game?

Saulbadguy 10-03-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
If the context of the discussion is KSU hoops, I'm certain you would hear those names.

Naw. Reaching for ghosts like that is pointless, just as pointless as bringing up Gale Sayers or John Riggins. I'm sure 18 year old kids are impressed by those names. :)

Skip Towne 10-03-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach
KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

OK, here's one for you. When was the last time KSU won at Bramlage?

Coach 10-03-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
OK, here's one for you. When was the last time KSU won at Bramlage?

Aganist KU?

Saulbadguy 10-03-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach
KSU was not better than KU was during 2004 to 2006, becuase the talent wasn't there, compared to the 2003 and earlier K-State teams. The only reason why K-State won in 2005 was that the game was in Manhttan, combined with Mangino's piss-poor road record.

Not to mention that Mangino recruting skills are a hell alot better than Terry Allen's. It just seemed to me that Allen was only recruting Division I-AA players to try to fit into the D-I level, which is a recipie for disaster, which was evidenced by the beatdowns that K-State provided in the late 90's to early 00's.

Oh, since you haven't answered my question about when was the last KU team to win in Manhattan, it was in 1989.

Our recruiting was pretty bad from 2002-2006. Don't know what happened.

KU won in Manhattan in 1989. Before that? 1976. 2 wins in the past 30 years. However, if they are going to do it, the time is NOW. I don't see KSU getting any worse in the next few seasons.

Skip Towne 10-03-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach
Aganist KU?

Yes


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