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DeezNutz 08-16-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4919037)
No dude, Glass is obviously a cheap ass, right? You were right all along, Glass doesn't spend money. You sure do know baseball.

He's spending money now. I love it. Keep it up. Your logic has been brilliant throughout this thread. What's that about never failing to get a draft pick signed?

DeezNutz 08-16-2008 12:09 PM

At this rate, we can hope that our payroll will soon match money given to us in revenue sharing.

eazyb81 08-16-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4919042)
He's spending money now. I love it. Keep it up. Your logic has been brilliant throughout this thread. What's that about never failing to get a draft pick signed?

Yep, he's never failed to sign a 1st round pick - pretty hard to grasp for you, huh? Once again in the Moore era, the Royals go well over slot on a 1st round pick, spend a ton on the draft, and a few idiot fans don't have anything to cry about for the time being.

Can't wait until next year where you're back here complaining about how cheap Glass is and that we'll probably not sign our 1st round pick. Simpletons are so fun to converse with.

GLASS IS CHEAP! GLASS IS CHEAP! GLASS IS CHEAP!

LOL

DeezNutz 08-16-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4919050)
Yep, he's never failed to sign a 1st round pick - pretty hard to grasp for you, huh? Once again in the Moore era, the Royals go well over slot on a 1st round pick, spend a ton on the draft, and a few idiot fans don't have anything to cry about for the time being.

Can't wait until next year where you're back here complaining about how cheap Glass is and that we'll probably not sign our 1st round pick. Simpletons are so fun to converse with.

GLASS IS CHEAP! GLASS IS CHEAP! GLASS IS CHEAP!

LOL

Do you understand that Glass has been around longer than '05? He's the common denominator, ace. Before '05 picks were largely made BECAUSE THEY'D SIGN, so this is the weakest piece of evidence I've seen on here in a long time. You're convinced that Glass has changed. Great. I'm not.

This year's draft is a MAJOR step in the right direction. Let's see if he keeps this rolling by continuing to add to the ML payroll, which is much needed.

You calling others names is pretty funny, actually.

eazyb81 08-16-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4919060)
Do you understand that Glass has been around longer than '05? He's the common denominator, ace. Before '05 picks were largely made BECAUSE THEY'D SIGN, so this is the weakest piece of evidence I've seen on here in a long time. You're convinced that Glass has changed. Great. I'm not.

Of course, and not one person in this entire thread has argued that he's been Steinbrennerish during his tenure here. He certainly made mistakes early on and was cheap - NO ONE IS DENYING THAT. However, he has also changed his ways over the last few years, evidenced by increased spending on the draft, in FA, and in Latin America. If you can't see that, then again, you are a simpleton.

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This year's draft is a MAJOR step in the right direction. Let's see if he keeps this rolling by continuing to add to the ML payroll, which is much needed.
Can't you say that about any GM? "Well he's doing good, but let's see what he'll do in the future". Wow, no duh Sherlock. Bottom line, Glass was cheap in the past, but has done a complete 180 over the past few seasons during the Dayton Moore era. I'm not sure why any reasonable fan could have anymore hesitation at this point.

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You calling others names is pretty funny, actually.
Who's calling names?

Sure-Oz 08-16-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4919071)
Of course, and not one person in this entire thread has argued that he's been Steinbrennerish during his tenure here. He certainly made mistakes early on and was cheap - NO ONE IS DENYING THAT. However, he has also changed his ways over the last few years, evidenced by increased spending on the draft, in FA, and in Latin America. If you can't see that, then again, you are a simpleton.



Can't you say that about any GM? "Well he's doing good, but let's see what he'll do in the future". Wow, no duh Sherlock. Bottom line, Glass was cheap in the past, but has done a complete 180 over the past few seasons during the Dayton Moore era. I'm not sure why any reasonable fan could have anymore hesitation at this point.



Who's calling names?

This is a nice step....but he has WAY more to prove in helping Moore build a winning franchise...we'll see if he continues this for years to come. I believe he is going to back moore and the royals from here on out.

DeezNutz 08-16-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4919071)
Of course, and not one person in this entire thread has argued that he's been Steinbrennerish during his tenure here. He certainly made mistakes early on and was cheap - NO ONE IS DENYING THAT. However, he has also changed his ways over the last few years, evidenced by increased spending on the draft, in FA, and in Latin America. If you can't see that, then again, you are a simpleton.



Can't you say that about any GM? "Well he's doing good, but let's see what he'll do in the future". Wow, no duh Sherlock. Bottom line, Glass was cheap in the past, but has done a complete 180 over the past few seasons during the Dayton Moore era. I'm not sure why any reasonable fan could have anymore hesitation at this point.



Who's calling names?


Again, you think he's changed. I'm not entirely convinced, yet. Are things much, much better? Of course. There's no question, but this organization still has a ways to go. Let's tackle the ML payroll next and things will be looking pretty darn good, indeed.

As to your second point: Yes, GM's are responsible for making individual selections, but the owner must supply the necessary resources. This finally seems to be the case with Moore, but we really have no idea what kind of GM Baird was, for example. He was asked to make chicken salad again and again. So a good part of a GM's success is tied to resources, i.e. money, that the owner provides.

Sure-Oz 08-16-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4919097)
Again, you think he's changed. I'm not entirely convinced, yet. Are things much, much better? Of course. There's no question, but this organization still has a ways to go. Let's tackle the ML payroll next and things will be looking pretty darn good, indeed.

As to your second point: Yes, GM's are responsible for making individual selections, but the owner must supply the necessary resources. This finally seems to be the case with Moore, but we really have no idea what kind of GM Baird was, for example. He was asked to make chicken salad again and again. So a good part of a GM's success is tied to resources, i.e. money, that the owner provides.

As a die hard royals fan i can understand why you'd be pessimistic, since we've been cheap for so long, but i have to believe Dayton would'nt stay here without full backing of our owner and commitement. Something tells me Glass's son was a big culprit on our cheap days as well and dayton said back the **** off

Reaper16 08-16-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cards Fan 4 Chiefs (Post 4918983)
Royals fans, do baseball a favor and just shut up. You shitheads know nothing about baseball.

Let the Cardinals fans do the talking and stay the hell out of our way.

****, maybe these are KU fans who hadn't payed much attention to Crow or MU baseball? It's not exactly inexcusable for Chiefs message board posters to not know the eligibility of MU baseball players, I wouldn't think.

... but why am I taking a rational-discourse method with you? You don't deserve it, you piece of ****ing pond scum. SHUT THE **** UP.

I will ****ING kill you.

DeezNutz 08-16-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4919107)
As a die hard royals fan i can understand why you'd be pessimistic, since we've been cheap for so long, but i have to believe Dayton would'nt stay here without full backing of our owner and commitement. Something tells me Glass's son was a big culprit on our cheap days as well and dayton said back the **** off

I fully hope this is the case. But when I hear Moore say things like, "Our attendance needs to be 2.5 mil for payroll to be around 75." I get very, very worried.

Sure-Oz 08-16-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4919127)
I fully hope this is the case. But when I hear Moore say things like, "Our attendance needs to be 2.5 mil for payroll to be around 75." I get very, very worried.

I wouldn't worry too much, part of his job is to get fans in the seats, but i think he is very dedicated to getting this franchise back on the winning track. I doubt he'd take a job just for the hell of it. In Dayton We Trust...we have been signing our 1st rounders and spending moola on them rather than being cheap. Last year we tried for FA's too....i bet we do the same again.

teedubya 08-16-2008 01:54 PM

i really like the direction this team is taking... plus once the stadium is all bad-ass... players will beging to FLOCK here... 2010 will be a GREAT season to get FA talent.


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