I just don't see it as possible you're going to ask a team to give up basically 3 or 4 high picks, not to mention you just dropped below Cincinatti and Cleveland so it's risky.

Way to not take circumstance and situation into the factor here lol, that's one of the funniest things I've ever read you want me to pick it apart because I'm pretty sure you realize how flawed it is...

If Cincy gave up on Palmer, I think that would be beyond stupid. I also don't know that the Browns would be willing to draft a QB after giving Anderson his fat sack o cash.

I'm talking about them giving up their pick to a team that wants a QB.

That is much more logical than my thought. Thanks for clarifying.

Ok lets see.

Russell got saddled with the Raiders, give him time. Though Ryan and Flacco both went to teams with terrible records last year. Vince Young and Matt Leinart though are both on teams that got to the 2nd round of the playoffs with them on the bench. Give me a good reason why circumstances have been against them succeeding when their teams are succeeding with them on the bench. While Cutler has been doing a pretty good job in Denver.

Boller and Grossman were both in big-time college programs and went to teams with solid defenses that just asked them to manage the games and they couldn't do that too well. Grossman got to a super bowl, but he's certainly not a big reason why they got that far. Boller has failed miserably and had Flacco step into roughly the same situation and do extremely well. So where's my obviously flawed logic at?

Vince Young is from the spread, wanna quickly tell me the success rate of those QB's yea, that's also why thinking Thigpen is the answer is funnier than shit...just gloss over that though.

Matt Leinart is system limited he was drafted by Dennis Green to play in the WCO which he can do, when Whisenhunt took over and put in vertical passing Leinart couldn't play he doesn't have the arm, I don't see you mentioning that...

Boller was a 3rd round pick till he worked out and threw a ball 50 yards threw the uprights off his knees...He was the QB at Cal when Tedford got there and never had good numbers his career completion percentage was under 50...once again way to gloss over that.

Rex Grossman, a Florida Steve Spurrier QB what more can be said there?

Russell would be a top 5 pick basically in any year he entered the draft, sometimes they work out sometimes they don't but obviously being picked by the Raiders doesn't help.

And for your other comments saying Flacco from where he was from guess what, Flacco was the same thing Boller was a 3rd round pick that rose on workouts and arm strength those types of picks are extremely risky. Not to mention you have the questions of he transferred out because he couldn't be out Tyler Palko and playing where he did brings up the didn't face good competition question..

You're just glossing over a ton of stuff it's not simply big program small program.

my point is that the success of a QB is very much based on the quality of the offensive line. Heisman Trophy QB's don't have a high success rate because they basically have to have an amazing line to put up the numbers to win the trophy in the first place. Give me the guy that can win games, not put up ridiculous numbers. I want the guy who has experience with being pressured, having to move around in the pocket, not have playmakers that are far and away better than the defense they are facing. Give me the guy that has shown his toughness and ability to stand in the pocket, not the guy that put up big numbers at a football factory college.

I don't really see what the issue here is with the top 2 QB's this year they bring everything you can ask for.

I think Stafford is wayyy better than Sanchez. The SEC defenses are so tough, the guy has been tested.

Stafford earned the right to be drafted higher I said that before...but Sanchez is right behind him and has the potential to be just as good if not better, they are both better prospects than Sam Bradford is.

I hate this.. but the FACT is... OT is probably the best VALUE at #3... even though it is stupid for US... it is damn hard to argue that there is ANY player (other than an OT) that is a good value at #3... ok maybe Stafford... and Sanchez MAY be ok... if he bucks the trend of junior QB busts...

Still you shouldn't make a pick based on fear, what if you pass on Sanchez and he becomes a great player?

Then your franchise looks stupid.

Gil Brandt who worked for the Cowboys said Jimmy Johnson gave consideration to Tony Mandarich saying maybe he's the way to go maybe we should want to control the line and be physical.

And all the personnel people told him if you do that you're going to be thought of as the biggest laughing stock in the league.

And obviously they took Aikman.

We could have had Flacco last year. Do we look stupid for going with Branden Albert?

It's not fear, it's playing the odds.

Mandarich was a roid riddled goon.

Personally If I was the chiefs I would try to trade down as much as we could, get as many picks as possible and then take James Lauranitis cause he seems to me to be the best bet to be a perennial pro bowler. Then with all those other picks you can go crazy taking risks and filling as many holes as possible. There's surely some decent QB prospects to be had in later rounds.