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bowener 01-22-2009 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415549)
As a gameday coach, I'd go to war with Shanarat on my sideline any day. It gives us two edges IMO, the guy will do everything in his power to go 4-0 against both Denver and Oakland every year. And he is a solid gameday coach. And if he is truly going to coach here, he's already accepted the fact that he will work WITH Pioli to bring in new players, not tell Pioli who to bring in. That seemed to be his downfall in Denver.

The only thing that would worry me most would be his ability to put together a defense. He needs to hire a solid defensive staff, otherwise we're going to go through the same defensive deficiencies we've seen this decade...
I have a question about this. Is it more likely that Pioli will pick the assistants, or not? Knowing Shanahan's past, I wouldn't be surprised if Pioli let him pick the OC, but not the DC, and just told Shan to turn over control of the D to his DC or something. I dont really know how it works, but I thought that was part of 'total control of the team'.

Reerun_KC 01-22-2009 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefPote (Post 5415603)
If shanahan is given the job, should we change the "rat" icon to something more respectful? So many problems......
Fair enough, but Herm's should go to this after tomorrow...


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Reerun_KC 01-22-2009 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 5415610)
No, he'll always be a rat. He'll just be our rat. Like "Ben."
This...

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 5415605)
I don't think "full control" is an issue with Pioli. By that I mean, he seemed to indicate that they always went with the pick that both he and the coach agreed upon. If he's amicable, then it doesn't have to be a my way or the highway situation.
If I am Pioli, I trust Rat with all the offensive draft positions, let him select any running back he wants in the middle rounds, and tell him to STFU and STFD when we have to roll with defense and free agents...

BigChiefFan 01-22-2009 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5415618)
I have a question about this. Is it more likely that Pioli will pick the assistants, or not? Knowing Shanahan's past, I wouldn't be surprised if Pioli let him pick the OC, but not the DC, and just told Shan to turn over control of the D to his DC or something. I dont really know how it works, but I thought that was part of 'total control of the team'.
They'll find somebody they BOTH AGREE ON.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-22-2009 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415612)
How it is that all the Herm haters can put everything on him is beyond me:rolleyes:

I truly think Carl had him handcuffed for all of his first year and most of his second. Clark bought into what Herm wanted to do and the mistakes via the draft and FA falls directly on the shoulders of Carl and Dick!

We all know it takes time to build a great football team and you can't do crap without depth at many key positions which was derailed by aging vets. Whatever happens, happens, but I think Herm got the short end of the stick on this one. I know I'm in the minority when it comes down to keeping Herm, but so be it!
See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.

FloridaMan88 01-22-2009 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 5415013)
There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.
What other NFL team could land Shanahan as a head coach at this point? Not the Raiders obviously. Unless Kyle Shanahan thinks a team who hasn't fired their head coach yet (like the Chiefs) is going to do so and hire Shanahan.

FringeNC 01-22-2009 11:22 AM
If we hire Shanahan, whether we go to a 3-4 or not will be very interesting. I think we will. I think Pioli will be making most of the personnel decisions on defense, and they will be shared on offense.

wildwill2112 01-22-2009 11:22 AM
This sucks, if it is true: cuss:

KC4EVER 01-22-2009 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 5415630)
See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.
I agree with these teams getting things turned around in a hurry, but think Herm's only had one to do what he's wanted to do since coming here.

bowener 01-22-2009 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415612)
How it is that all the Herm haters can put everything on him is beyond me:rolleyes:

I truly think Carl had him handcuffed for all of his first year and most of his second. Clark bought into what Herm wanted to do and the mistakes via the draft and FA falls directly on the shoulders of Carl and Dick!

We all know it takes time to build a great football team and you can't do crap without depth at many key positions which was derailed by aging vets. Whatever happens, happens, but I think Herm got the short end of the stick on this one. I know I'm in the minority when it comes down to keeping Herm, but so be it!
This isnt meant as a bashing, but what has Herm done in his entire career as an NFL head coach, that has you so convinced that he can do anything better than some, if not most, of the candidates out there? What traits does he possess that you think will/do make him a capable leader that can take a team from 2-14 to a championship within the next 2 seasons, which will likely require training and teaching a rookie QB for the NFL?

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5415631)
What other NFL team could land Shanahan as a head coach at this point? Not the Raiders obviously. Unless Kyle Shanahan thinks a team who hasn't fired their head coach yet (like the Chiefs) is going to do so and hire Shanahan.
IMO Dallas, they're sort of like us, the owner has said he wants everyone to return, but as the days go by that team is imploding more and more, and Jones may need to make a move soon ASAP to save face. I wouldn't be shocked to see Phillips out in the next day or two. That's just me speculating...

alanm 01-22-2009 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5415269)
i don't recall Garcia Bronco ever posting bullshit before


so i'll take him at his word.
It's not like he works for WPI. Guess I don't have any opinion on it one way or another if it is true. Probably the same as when they hired Vermeil. I just hope he stays the hell away from the defense and they don't have a revolving door at DC like they do in Denver.

DaneMcCloud 01-22-2009 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5415349)
Why doesn't the interview of Herm count? I think it's stupid that it won't.
Because he's already employed and under contract.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand?

DaWolf 01-22-2009 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 5415630)
See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.
I also believe John Fox took Carolina's 31 ranked defense and his first year had them ranked #1, and it took Marty and Wade Phillips one year to turn around a crap San Diego team and bottom feeding defense.

Herm's issue IMO is not in the theory of rebuilding a team with young guys, it is in the way he's gone about doing it...


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