So... about a three? :-)

I'd much rather see Waters and LJ leave than Gonzo. I don't want Tony to wear any uniform other than KC in his HoF career.

I suppose if Joe Montana and Brett Farve can switch teams at or near the end of their careers, then Tony most certainly can as well. Just doesn't sit well with me.

To be honest I've never liked LJ. I liked Priest and thought LJ was a horrible waste of a pick. Turns out it probably wasn't, but I wish we hadn't signed him to that long and expensive contract.

This is horribly selfish, and I couldn't agree more. Its like if he stays he's staying for the fans. And it seems like almost no players are playing for the fans anymore. There aren't too many players out there who stay with their original team through thick and thin.

Can we just cut his dumb ass? How many years would we have to eat cap space if we cut him now? I am perfectly fine with Charles being our starter for this year, or fine with signing a halfway interesting free agent to compete with Charles.

I'm sick of LJ. He needs to realize that he is lucky to have a job at this point with all the bullshit he's put us through and his lack of recent production.

Considering the chances of Waters actually being dealt is virtually zero, I thought this was a thread of pipe dreams.

True. For his sake, I'd love to see him win a Superbowl. If he has 2 or 3 years left in him, I think there is a chance that this team could make a run at it though.

Being traded to a contenter is a nice thought, but even if you ask the smartest of the smart in Vegas to help you pick the contender you want to be traded to, the chances that you choose the right team for a Superbowl run aren't good. Probably better than your odds of winning one in the next 2 to 3 as a Chief, but not a whole lot better.

Waters shows up on the field... The Roaf effect was obvious, but he's still good. As long as he shows up, does his job, and doesn't make everyone else miserable off the field, I'm okay if he stays.

Now if he starts sucking it up or pulling some OL version of Terrell Owens... [ROBOCOP] BITCHES LEAVE!!! [/ROBOCOP]

This is a joke, right?

I would hope so, if not he needs a lesson in value of players.

Sweet mother of ****.

I really don't get it, it seems like people not just Chiefs fans automatically think this team is taking Curry or an OT and that's that.

If TG wins a ring with another team, he almost certainly will go to HOF as a player of that team. There lies the difference between the TG and Montana situation.

You don't go to the HOF as a player of any particular team.

Frankly if there's a trade down opportunity I can almost guarantee that Pioli will go that route.

I think they do. That's was a big debate about Marcus Allen.