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tonyetony 08-27-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6007111)
Ah yes, the "you can't say anything bad about our team" deal. Got it. Still waiting for a clip of a deep throw by Cassel that isn't a floater...


The opportunity cost of Cassel and converting to the 3-4 given the personnel on the roster and hence spending 1st and 3rd on 3-4 DLs is a pretty sorry score so far. Scott Pioli has had his first offseaon, and the Chiefs still have a sorry OL and a lame pass rush. The season may prove me wrong, but I'd give Pioli a flat "F" so far. Oh, but you have Matt Cassel to enjoy the fruits of that OL. Sanchez has better pass protection and a better set of skill players, but don't let that stop the "QB and only the QB wins the game crowd" from comparing the two. Craig Krenzel started off 3-0 for da Bears... a lock for the HOF for sure...


How many QB's throw 50 yard passes on a fly route like a 15 yard out pattern? Uh if your trying to go over the top the ball will need a higher trajectory. I disagree with your idea of Cassel having a rag arm. Instead of asking for evidence of long balls why don't you produce a clip of all the FLOATERS you seem to reference every other comment.

TFG 08-27-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6007164)

Dumbass


Interesting that even with that view, you don't see the ball in the air, because the throw is so high the camera misses it. I don't know what you define as a "floater" but that surely doesn't refute anything I've posted. That is a medium deep out lobbed to Moss so high it is out of the camera... LMAO

SAUTO 08-27-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6007216)
Interesting that even with that view, you don't see the ball in the air, because the throw is so high the camera misses it. I don't know what you define as a "floater" but that surely doesn't refute anything I've posted. That is a medium deep out lobbed to Moss so high it is out of the camera... LMAO

show me a qb that throws a 40-50 yard pass that stays in camera without the camera panning up

TFG 08-27-2009 05:33 PM

Correct, that is a 40 yard deep out FLOATER. Ball travels 55 yards in the air and Moss is there for it. But the pass is not exactly zipped. LOL. No. If you want to say that is "not a floater" then you have no clue at all.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2009 05:33 PM

Who cares about floaters?

Joe ****ing Montana floated his way into the Hall of Fame.

TFG 08-27-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6007222)
show me a qb that throws a 40-50 yard pass that stays in camera without the camera panning up


The system does not let me post LINKS...

There is a six minute Eddie Royal tape on youtube, the second clip of which is about 40 yards in the air from Jay...

Just Passin' By 08-27-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6007225)
Correct, that is a 40 yard deep out FLOATER. Ball travels 55 yards in the air and Moss is there for it. But the pass is not exactly zipped. LOL. No. If you want to say that is "not a floater" then you have no clue at all.

Ok. I wasn't sure if you were a troll or a ****ing idiot. Now, I realize that you're a ****ing idiot even if you are a troll.

TFG 08-27-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6007230)
Who cares about floaters?

Joe ****ing Montana floated his way into the Hall of Fame.


I don't agree with that. Joe had about 35 yards of laser when he needed it.

TFG 08-27-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6007241)
Ok. I wasn't sure if you were a troll or a ****ing idiot. Now, I realize that you're a ****ing idiot even if you are a troll.



Sorry if the truth hurts...

LOCOChief 08-27-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6004803)
Colin Brown, 5th round

Donald Washington, 4th round (when Leggett, Carr & Flowers are on the roster).

I'm not with Pioli until he proves he knows something we don't.

I can understand this, but it's one thing to take a wait and see approach like I think you're saying and another to anticipate Poilis failure like the douchbag did with this list.

Just Passin' By 08-27-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6007246)
Sorry if the truth hurts...

You're an idiot. Sorry if the truth hurts.

Hammock Parties 08-27-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6007242)
I don't agree with that. Joe had about 35 yards of laser when he needed it.

SO DOES CASSEL.

Jeez.

Go and watch highlights of Montana's deep balls - the stuff he threw over 40 yards, deep down the field.

High, arcing, floaters.

Completely irrelevant, quite frankly.

TFG 08-27-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6007307)
SO DOES CASSEL.

Jeez.

Go and watch highlights of Montana's deep balls - the stuff he threw over 40 yards, deep down the field.

High, arcing, floaters.

Completely irrelevant, quite frankly.



I must say I admire and respect the fans of the KC Chiefs... as fans.


I strongly disagree that Cassel has as strong an arm as Montana did. Montana did float some, but he could zip it when he needed to, and did. Neither could get it 40 yards zipped, but Montana had 10 on Cassel. Cassel, for an NFL starting QB, has a weak arm. The tape of the throw to Moss is everything he has with perfect protection, something he won't have here. Matt has 25 yards of zip and 55 of float. That allows defenses to pinch, jump routes, and blitz, and this roster doesn't appear to have either Randy Moss or Jerry Rice on it. Enjoy the season. Regardless of what happens, just remember that Pioli is the smartest darn GM ever to walk the planet, at least until he is fired...

WilliamTheIrish 08-27-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6006078)
And what's wrong with that comment?

I don't care who it is, I expect a rookie to struggle a bit in his 2nd preseason game against the best defense in the league, on the road.

All we heard about the Cassel deal is how he had more experience, and would be better suited to play with limited weapons and behind a bad OL. How we'd ruin a draft pick at QB. Cassel's a veteran, has experience, so on, and so forth.

Sorry, but people did it to themselves claiming that Cassel is a franchise QB without the risk of a draft pick.

Can't have it both ways.

That's a sweet excuse too. You expect that from a rookie. Okay. Ground work laid.

And look, I don't give a rat's ass either way. What the Chiefs do in the war room and on the field is completely out of my control. All I can do is be a fan of the laundry the guy wears.

TFG 08-27-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6007304)
You're an idiot. Sorry if the truth hurts.


At least your grammar is acceptable. The last one was "your and idiot."


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