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petegz28 09-27-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6116201)
The right 53 probably means players that don't **** up constantly. Don't **** up and you don't get yelled at.

I learned that fairly quickly in USMC boot camp
Pretty much how I see it.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6116198)
Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.
I think that goes back to what I said though..

They had the 3rd pick and they were making a move for Cassel they blew their signing bonus cash on those 2 players.

The Chiefs don't go big market and drop 100 mill on bonuses in 1 year.

OnTheWarpath15 09-27-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6116198)
Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.
This.

It's unfathomable to me that the "Executive of the Decade" has been so bad at talent evaluation over the past 9 months.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116205)
In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?
When you trade for a guard then make him a tackle it's pretty obvious what is going to happen.

DeezNutz 09-27-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116205)
In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?
We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.

chiefzilla1501 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116212)
I think that goes back to what I said though..

They had the 3rd pick and they were making a move for Cassel they blew their signing bonus cash on those 2 players.

The Chiefs don't go big market and drop 100 mill on bonuses in 1 year.
While that might be true, the upgrades that were available could have been signed for peanuts (especially through the draft). That might explain why they didn't go after Olshansky and Canty. But it doesn't explain the o-line.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6116213)
This.

It's unfathomable to me that the "Executive of the Decade" has been so bad at talent evaluation over the past 9 months.
I'm going to say it now, you were right.

Marcellus 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6116198)
Change is one thing.

Not realizing how bad our offensive line was until the 3rd game in the preseason is inexcusable.

Ndukwe, Alleman and O'callaghan are not good linemen. They were the best we could get because we sat on our hands so long. The point is that we had a bunch of much better options earlier in the preseason, but for whatever reason, the front office didn't make it a priority.
I don't think not making it a priority is the reason. I think they mis-evaluated what we had which is a big mistake and I won't argue that. I don't think they thought these guys would be top notch, I think they were banking on servicable until they had time to get what they wanted.

As long as they don't repeat the mistake, which the last regime did for a while, I can live with it. They do it again and that's another issue.

OnTheWarpath15 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116205)
In other words...we can't read the future, we asked for change, got it and are now pissed?
Not at all.

I think most people would have expected the "Executive of the Decade" to bring someone in that is an upgrade before cutting someone loose.

Mac caught a lot of shit on this board, but he's a ****ing All-Pro compared to Ndukwe.

DaneMcCloud 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6116218)
We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.
This

JFC.

This place has ****ing become reerunCentral.com lately.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6116220)
While that might be true, the upgrades that were available could have been signed for peanuts (especially through the draft). That might explain why they didn't go after Olshansky and Canty. But it doesn't explain the o-line.
Well a guy like Jason Brown signed with the Rams because of how much money he got there.

Marcellus 09-27-2009 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116221)
I'm going to say it now, you were right.
You guys state the team was untaleneted last year going into this year and now you expect them to do a 180 in 1 offseason.

Your geniuses.

petegz28 09-27-2009 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6116218)
We asked for improvement, not change. **** man. Come on.
Imrpovement and change go hand in hand. McSacintosh wasn't cutting it. So you have to make a change and hope for improvment. If we don't improve we repeat the process until we do.

OnTheWarpath15 09-27-2009 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116221)
I'm going to say it now, you were right.
About?

htismaqe 09-27-2009 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6116153)
Well, when that same head coach is also calling the plays, he needs to keep his shit together.

There's no way in the world he can be an effective playcaller if he's constantly consumed by rage.
He wasn't consumed by rage today. He actually kept it in check VERY well.


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