Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6255259)

Here's a little something for those that called low-carb diets "****ing idiotic."

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Let's see, highest retention rate, best improvements in overall health, including blood pressure, better insulin resistance, higher HDL cholesterol (that's the good cholesterol), lower LDL cholesterol (the bad kind).

While it's true that a lot of the people couldn't stay at the ultra-low carb level, and bounced up in weight a bit, they still overall lost twice as much weight, and it was just as difficult to stay on the ultra-low fat diet. The ultra-low-fat diet performed exactly the same as the "balanced" diet.

I don't like the editorializing he does regarding saturated fats, especially after he quoted a study that showed the kind of fat didn't matter. Plus, he admitted he's a vegetarian at the beginning, so no wonder he's pimping veggies so much. Not that that's a bad thing, but taking in lots of unfermented soy has been shown to have negative effects, especially on men. At least he admits his bias at the 55 minute mark. He also says he we get more protein than we need, and says that high-protein may be bad in the long-term, but has no data for that. Editorializing, and there's no scientific evidence of that. I've read a lot of studies that show most Americans get TOO LITTLE protein. But, again, dude's a vegetarian.

Oh well. Clearly the best diet is low-carb, high fat, even if you can't stick to ultra-low carbs. I admit that sticking to ultra-low carb is hard, simply because there's so much high-carb stuff that is almost too good to resist, like pecan pie or something. At least attempting to get to ultra-low carbs for as long as possible results in much greater weight loss and overall health improvements.

Our ability to eat protein instead of vegetables is what catapulted our species over the neanderthals. Yes, we can eat anything, but high protein, high fat and low carb is clearly the best for weight loss and health.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6307983)

I must admit, that I am still skeptical. Now, granted, I am specifically limiting my carbs. I am increasing my protein as well. If I snack, it is usually on yogurt, nuts, or pickled eggs.

All that said, I think the body needs proper nutrition and that includes fiber. That includes other vitamins and minerals that are found in fruits and vegetables.

I just don't believe in ultra low carb diets. I am going to look that video up on youtube though, and listen to the whole thing.

I appreciate what you bring to the table. Whether we all agree is not important. I like the fact that we can have discussion and different points of view.

I do wonder if there will be any long term side affects of low carb diets..... just my own curiosity.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6308110)

After watching the presentation.... I think the speaker was very fair and objective. I don't think he demonstrated any bias.

I also think that there are many ways to lose weight. The key is adhering to the diet you choose. And, if you are constantly conscious of what you put in your body, that is the first step.

Mindless eating is where 'most' people get into trouble.

Additionally, he mentioned at the end that there has been a study about groups of people that have lost 35 pounds or more and kept it off...and the key to their loss was exercise.

So, to me, my take away is: If you elimate refined sugars and carbohydrates. If you cut your caloric intake, and if you excercise.... you will lose weight.

Yes, you can lose weight faster by doing specific diets. But, if you just watch what you eat and limit the sugars... you will lose weight. Especially, if you exercise.

Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6307989)

Contemplating taking a 3 hour kettle bell intro at the gym this weekend. All of the hard cores at my gym seem to be on the kettle bell kick, and I admit that I like the looks of the full body workout combining strength and cardio that you seem to get out of it. A little worried I might jack my back, though.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6249747)

No. The one meal per week helps out tremendously.

The third week is tough but when the fourth week hits you can see the finish line.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6308307)

How much did the diet end up costing you....money wise?

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6308354)

Um...I ordered everything at once. It was about $500.

That was everything I ate for a month + the two-week transition and I had some left over for post-workout nutrition afterwards...about a month's worth....so it wasn't that bad.

I am considering doing it again next year because it worked so well.

Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 6256280)

It's been over a year now and a good 30+ pounds later and I'm still going. 30 pounds in a year may not sound like much to some, but I've been at it long enough now with just a few minor adjustments that this is something that has been more of a lifestyle change than quick drop.

Dr asked me this spring how the golfing for excercise was going, then tells me he wants me to up it to 3x a week. I love you Doc!:thumb:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6256288)

Burn more calories than you consume on a daily basis.

It isn't rocket science.

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 6308209)

I just started back up again yesterday. I can't believe how bad I let myself go after giving up chewing.

The only problem is that I'm reduced to cardio only. I mangled my shoulder and have been putting off a trip to the doc. Rubbing dirt on it doesn't seem to be helping.:D

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6308375)

How much weight did you drop?

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6308379)

20 lbs, and most of that is pure FAT loss.

And it stayed off. But that's not really anything to do with the diet. That's just me continuing to work out and eat at my daily caloric need.

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6307089)

Back on track. Yep, still been eating junk more than I should. That ended yesterday. Done very well today. I'm going to do this for one week to see if I can any difference without weighing. Weighing in starts Sunday.

Light workout tonight. 20 minutes of getting the heart rate up, but nothing too strenuous.

Anyone know of any exercises for working out the neck? I've heard that putting your head back and stretching your jaw is good.