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dirk digler 12-20-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6365344)
Yeah, well then I'll bitch about Bowe being good ol' stone-hands today, or the coaching staff deciding to throw O'Connell and Vrabel out there instead of Cottam and Studebaker.

Clancy Pendergast deserves the brunt of Chief's fan collective wrath more than anyone. And our ST coach. ****ing buffoons.

Matt Cassel doesn't deserve a pat on the back and high-fives because he did what was expected of him. He made plays. He orchestrated the offense for the most part. He made some good throws. He made some bad throws. He was definitely more of a positive impact on the field than a negative...which is a vastly different story from the last two weeks.

I'm not saying he played flawlessly today; and even if he would have, we still would have lost. That's how bad our team is. I'm fairly confident Cassel could have went 29/31 and never made any bad throws and we'd still lose it because apparently Jerome Harrison borrowed Jim Brown's jockstrap before the game. It's ****ing sickening.

No shit where are all the fire Clancy Dumbass threads? That guy sucks balls and I never wanted him here because I knew he would be bad.

DeezNutz 12-20-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6365349)
goox answer and thanks for actually having something to say. what i will say to that is we know that NOW IN HINDSIGHT. correct?
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Even at the time, though, Sauto, we knew that Green was trying to lead a much more complicated offensive system.

And it depends upon whether or not you believed Grandpa's worthless ass; he consistently defended Green and essentially blamed the WRs.

Meanwhile, our douche of a HC doesn't even emphasize the lone receiving weapon that we do have.

Mecca 12-20-2009 07:44 PM

Look I've said numerous times this coaching staff is awful but all I'm ever met with is "Haley is a good coach he just needs time"

DeezNutz 12-20-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365359)
Look I've said numerous times this coaching staff is awful but all I'm ever met with is "Haley is a good coach he just needs time"

The people who are calling for more patience with Haley should be advocating for Herm to be the assistant HC, too, because the former could actually learn from the latter.

It's that ****ing bad.

dirk digler 12-20-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365359)
Look I've said numerous times this coaching staff is awful but all I'm ever met with is "Haley is a good coach he just needs time"

Did he make any stupid decisions today?

SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6365357)
Even at the time, though, Sauto, we knew that Green was trying to lead a much more complicated offensive system.

And it depends upon whether or not you believed Grandpa's worthless ass; he consistently defended Green and essentially blamed the WRs.

Meanwhile, our douche of a HC doesn't even emphasize the lone receiving weapon that we do have.

well when bowe is so inconsistent can you blame them for not emphasizing him more?


and how did you feel about green after his first year
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el borracho 12-20-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365330)
And Green worked with WR's far worse than this shit we have now.

I'm sorry Bowe and Chambers are both light years better than Eddie Kennison.

Kennison wasn't there the first year; it was C. Thomas and "Snoop" Minnis.

Green had an Oline, but the receivers were worse; Cassel has no Oline, but the receivers (Bowe and Chambers) are ok/good. Neither Green nor Cassel had/have an arm worth writing home about but I don't remember Green ever throwing a punt (as Cassel often does). There is no comparison at all when speaking of accuracy; Green was highly accurate, Cassel is not at all accurate.

SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6365370)
Did he make any stupid decisions today?

other than letting pendergast through the gates?? save that i cant think of any right off the top
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DaneMcCloud 12-20-2009 07:49 PM

Matt Cassel's play was the least of the Chiefs problems today. The offensive line protected very well. I thought Alleman was an upgrade over Waters and Richardson has really developed in practice as a good option at right tackle. It may have been the opponent but he looked much better than O'Callaghan.

The Chiefs need a least two reliable receivers and consistent blocking before Cassel can be accurately judged. One week (or two in a row), he looks like total ass, then follows it up with a decent performance like today. If his receivers hadn't dropped half of everything thrown their way, it may have been a different day.

Oh, and I sure am glad that Cottam has been sitting on the bench all year.

:rolleyes:

O'Connell's a joke. Two seven round picks for THAT guy?

gblowfish 12-20-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6365385)
Matt Cassel's play was the least of the Chiefs problems today. The offensive line protected very well. I thought Alleman was an upgrade over Waters and Richardson has really developed in practice as a good option at right tackle. It may have been the opponent but he looked much better than O'Callaghan.

The Chiefs need a least two reliable receivers and consistent blocking before Cassel can be accurately judged. One week (or two in a row), he looks like total ass, then follows it up with a decent performance like today. If his receivers hadn't dropped half of everything thrown their way, it may have been a different day.

Oh, and I sure am glad that Cottam has been sitting on the bench all year.

:rolleyes:

O'Connell's a joke. Two seven round picks for THAT guy?

This is spot on. Cassel had maybe his best game of the year today. Too many dropped passes, too many missed tackles on defense.

TRR 12-20-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6365373)
There is no comparison at all when speaking of accuracy; Green was highly accurate, Cassel is not at all accurate.

You can say that now....but most were not saying that within the first year of "TrINT" Green's first year and a half with Kansas City.

Wow how posters forget...
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SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6365385)
Matt Cassel's play was the least of the Chiefs problems today. The offensive line protected very well. I thought Alleman was an upgrade over Waters and Richardson has really developed in practice as a good option at right tackle. It may have been the opponent but he looked much better than O'Callaghan.

The Chiefs need a least two reliable receivers and consistent blocking before Cassel can be accurately judged. One week (or two in a row), he looks like total ass, then follows it up with a decent performance like today. If his receivers hadn't dropped half of everything thrown their way, it may have been a different day.

Oh, and I sure am glad that Cottam has been sitting on the bench all year.

:rolleyes:

O'Connell's a joke. Two seven round picks for THAT guy?

b rich did look good today, i was soooo happy
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Coach 12-20-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6365370)
Did he make any stupid decisions today?

Yeah, the 2 minute drill before the end of the first half, for starters.

Secondly, kicking it over and over and over to Cribbs.

I could go on, but I'm not going to waste my time of a shitty-assed coach who refuses to acknowledge the problem is himself.

DaneMcCloud 12-20-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6365373)
Kennison wasn't there the first year; it was C. Thomas and "Snoop" Minnis.

Green had an Oline, but the receivers were worse; Cassel has no Oline, but the receivers (Bowe and Chambers) are ok/good. Neither Green nor Cassel had/have an arm worth writing home about but I don't remember Green ever throwing a punt (as Cassel often does). There is no comparison at all when speaking of accuracy; Green was highly accurate, Cassel is not at all accurate.

Uh, yes he was.

He joined the Chiefs in 2001, played in 5 games and had 322 yards receiving.

Tribal Warfare 12-20-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365266)
Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?


He's also starting to look at the pass rush instead of down field. He scrambled out of the pocket numerous times when the pass protection was adequate.


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