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Brock 01-01-2010 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6396916)
True...

I think the season was some what of a disaster, but do you think Clark or Scott give two shits about what I say?
Herm Edwards didn't give two shits what you had to say, but you kept saying it over and over and over and over and over.

Mr. Laz 01-01-2010 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396905)
We can certainly disagree on the level of disappointment.

But our GM is supposed to the "the guy." He's the highest paid GM in the league. Given his credentials, he should get no grace period.

At this point, "progress" shouldn't even be arguable, but it is, unfortunately.
This year has been painful for the fans ... no doubt.

but imo the Chiefs made the decision to limit what it did personnel wise because of all the transition taking place and because they wanted to evaluate the existing talent.

Changing GM
Changing Scouts
Changing Coaches
Changing schemes on both sides of the ball (dramatically on defense)
identifying and getting rid of cancer type players BEFORE you bring in new players to keep them from being negatively influenced.

seriously ... that's alot of crap do without rolling the dice on a bunch of new players.

this year sucked but imo it's too early to kick Pioli in the nuts about it.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396905)
We can certainly disagree on the level of disappointment.

But our GM is supposed to the "the guy." He's the highest paid GM in the league. Given his credentials, he should get no grace period.

At this point, "progress" shouldn't even be arguable, but it is, unfortunately.
Not goin to argue that... I agree with you....

But unless Clark comes out and says something about the season, then we are left to debate this over and over for the rest of the offseason...

Cause sadly, not one of us knows what Clark is thinking and if Clark considered the season a success or complete disaster...

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 6396918)
When your best acquisition for a team that went 2-14 the year before is a kicker taken in the 7th round, you have failed epicly.
That's just a silly comment. Are you a Mecca dupe or something?

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6396922)
Haley is a better coach than Edwards.

The defense is better in some areas, although not all, and only idiots would have expected anything different.

Matt Cassel is a much better quarterback than Thigpen.

Far more than 2 of the players are better than those they've replaced.

So, other than getting just about everything wrong or acting as if the expected was somehow shocking when it occurred, you might have some semblance of a point.
You do realize everything here can be pretty easily argued the other way, Todd Haley is an abysmal gameday coach how is he any better?

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6396925)
Herm Edwards didn't give two shits what you had to say, but you kept saying it over and over and over and over and over.
Yep and now there are plenty saying the same thing about Haley and Pioli over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

So? Someone has taken my spot... Whats your point?

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396924)
Of course. But it's facetious to try to downplay the notion that Pioli isn't "your guy."

You often seem fairly invested.
He seems extremely invested in everything Patriot, dare critiquing anything sets him off like it's a personal affront to him.

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6396924)
Of course. But it's facetious to try to downplay the notion that Pioli isn't "your guy."

You often seem fairly invested.
Not at all. Pioli, Haley and Cassel are the 3 most often attacked members of the Chiefs now that Johnson is gone. It makes since that I would defend them the most if I think the attacks are unfair.

Brock 01-01-2010 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6396932)
Yep and now there are plenty saying the same thing about Haley and Pioli over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

So? Someone has taken my spot... Whats your point?
So why are you suddenly bitching about it? It was apparently okay with you last year.

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396931)
You do realize everything here can be pretty easily argued the other way, Todd Haley is an abysmal gameday coach how is he any better?
No, I realize that you can CLAIM everything can be argued the other way.

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:29 PM
Todd Haley doesn't deserve to be attacked even though he carries himself like a 15 year old with a temper problem and makes the worst gameday calls imaginable...leave Todd alone.

Mecca 01-01-2010 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6396940)
No, I realize that you can CLAIM everything can be argued the other way.
Defend Todd Haley go for it, maybe he'll flip you off then call a fake punt.

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6396938)
So why are you bitching about it?
You gots me? I was just talking about the season and wether it was a success or not?

Reerun_KC 01-01-2010 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396942)
Todd Haley doesn't deserve to be attacked even though he carries himself like a 15 year old with a temper problem and makes the worst gameday calls imaginable...leave Todd alone.
ROFL

Sounds like alot of the posters here..

Just Passin' By 01-01-2010 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396945)
Defend Todd Haley go for it, maybe he'll flip you off then call a fake punt.
Haley's done some good things and some things that haven't been quite so good. That's the nature of coaching, particular when dealing with rookie coaches. The notion that Edwards was a better coach based upon Haley's one year of tenure in comparison to what Edwards failed to accomplish in Kansas City is laughable.


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