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DaWolf 01-06-2010 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6414703)
Let's hope Weis is a better OC than he was a college HC.


i still want a Quarterback's coach. :harumph:
It'll be interesting to see if they land Weis if we also make him QB coach. He did that with NE and Gailey was supposed to do both as well when he was the OC.

I'm with you though, I'd prefer to have a designated, qualified individual be the QB coach, but hell, as long as it's not Haley I'm good...

DaWolf 01-06-2010 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6415086)
They were discussing this today on Mike & Mike. They made a good point about how Weis wants to be "the head coach of the offense" but Todd Haley probably just wants someone who's more of a consultant.
If I'm Weis, I want assurances that the play calling will be mine and mine alone.

I think Haley realizes that Weis is probably looking to angle any gig he gets into another shot at running someone's show, so he probably sees Weis as a short term guy who he can hand that part of the team to, and then when Weis departs step back into it once things are more stable (sort of like what happened in Zona between himself and Whiz).

Haley also probably wants someone who he could trust implicitly with the offense, which is why Weis makes sense, since they know each other pretty well...

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6415103)
It'll be interesting to see if they land Weis if we also make him QB coach. He did that with NE and Gailey was supposed to do both as well when he was the OC.

I'm with you though, I'd prefer to have a designated, qualified individual be the QB coach, but hell, as long as it's not Haley I'm good...
I don't know anyone else in the NFL who would be a better QB coach for Cassel than Charlie Weis. I'd also like to groom that young guy (forget his name) I think hes the quality control coach or something into the next Josh McDaniels.

SAUTO 01-06-2010 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6413904)
No, I don't think Cassel could have taken Denver to a better record, nor compiled better statistics. And I definitely don't see him throwing fewer INT's than Orton, considering he threw just as many in NE surrounded by the dynasty of the decade.



Oh yeah, Chicago's offensive talent is worse than ours, at least for this season.

The OL's are probably a wash.

The RB's are hard to judge, because both are young, and they are different kind of runners.

But Chicago's WR were trash.

For a single season, I'd take Bowe/Chambers/Wade over Hester/Knox/Aromushdu every time, no questions asked.

If I were thinking about the future, however, I'd prefer to have Bowe, Knox and Aromushdu, and take my lumps while they learn.

That's the thing: Cutler leaves Denver, where he had Marshall, Royal and Scheffler to throw to - and goes to Chicago, throws to that crew, and the only statistic that suffered was his INT total.

Part of that was trying to do to much, part of it was young, inexperienced WR's running bad routes, the wrong routes, and learning on the fly.
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6415164)
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL
Another well thought out response.

How many Bears games did you watch?

How many e-mail conversations did you have with Jim Miller, former Bears QB and Sirius NFL Radio host discussing that very subject?

How many times have you watched Bears Post Game live on CSN Chicago, where this topic was discussed no less than 5 times?

That's what I thought.

Bill Lundberg 01-06-2010 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415178)
Another well thought out response.

How many Bears games did you watch?

How many e-mail conversations did you have with Jim Miller, former Bears QB and Sirius NFL Radio host discussing that very subject?

How many times have you watched Bears Post Game live on CSN Chicago, where this topic was discussed no less than 5 times?

That's what I thought.
Name dropper

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6415186)
Name dropper
Sorry. Just making a point.

Knowing Sauto, he'll want e-mail records, taped conversations, etc.

The conversations did happen, and Miller has said he knows for fact that while Cutler's decision making does need to improve, his INT numbers have been affected this year due to his young inexperienced WR corp.

carlos3652 01-06-2010 02:16 PM
OTWP, could that bolded phrase not be said about Cassel as well?

SAUTO 01-06-2010 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415178)
Another well thought out response.

How many Bears games did you watch?

How many e-mail conversations did you have with Jim Miller, former Bears QB and Sirius NFL Radio host discussing that very subject?

How many times have you watched Bears Post Game live on CSN Chicago, where this topic was discussed no less than 5 times?

That's what I thought.
SO jim miller the FORMER GM knows exactly where the WRs are supposed to be and what plays were called? maybe they were making EXCUSES for the acquisition.


what i really find humorous is that you are here making excuses for cutler but all those drops by KC WRs are cassel's fault. right?


again you are proving what a hypocrit you are.

and i watched most bears games i have them as my local channels

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6415237)
OTWP, could that bolded phrase not be said about Cassel as well?
You mean this?

Part of that was trying to do to much, part of it was young, inexperienced WR's running bad routes, the wrong routes, and learning on the fly.

No, I don't think so.

Bowe, Chambers, Wade, Bradley - all guys that have been in the league 3+ years, and have all, with the exception of Bradley, some level of success in the NFL.

Devin Hester is a KR convert, Knox is a 5th round rookie and Aromashodu is a 3rd year 7th round pick seeing the field for the first time.

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6415245)
SO jim miller the FORMER GM knows exactly where the WRs are supposed to be and what plays were called? maybe they were making EXCUSES for the acquisition.


what i really find humorous is that you are here making excuses for cutler but all those drops by KC WRs are cassel's fault. right?


again you are proving what a hypocrit you are.

and i watched most bears games i have them as my local channels
Jim Miller is a former QUARTERBACK.

As someone that is still employed by the Bears, knows the personnel and playbook and understands the responsibilities of both the QB and WR's, then yeah, I trust his opinion.

If you've ever listened to him on Sirius, or on CSN Chicago, you'd know he's as fair and balanced an analyst as there is.

We know you trust nothing, and no one, so I'm talking to a brick wall.

I shouldn't even waste my time.

carlos3652 01-06-2010 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415251)
You mean this?

Part of that was trying to do to much, part of it was young, inexperienced WR's running bad routes, the wrong routes, and learning on the fly.

No, I don't think so.

Bowe, Chambers, Wade, Bradley - all guys that have been in the league 3+ years, and have all, with the exception of Bradley, some level of success in the NFL.

Devin Hester is a KR convert, Knox is a 5th round rookie and Aromashodu is a 3rd year 7th round pick seeing the field for the first time.
as it related to the offensive scheme being new, wouldnt Chambers have a hard time gettting on board and Wade and Bowe and Bradley running new routes, new plays?

SAUTO 01-06-2010 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415251)
You mean this?

Part of that was trying to do to much, part of it was young, inexperienced WR's running bad routes, the wrong routes, and learning on the fly.

No, I don't think so.

Bowe, Chambers, Wade, Bradley - all guys that have been in the league 3+ years, and have all, with the exception of Bradley, some level of success in the NFL.

Devin Hester is a KR convert, Knox is a 5th round rookie and Aromashodu is a 3rd year 7th round pick seeing the field for the first time.
Yet every one of them had problems LINING UP at some point or another, But you are right lets ASSUME that they ran the right routes.:rolleyes:

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6415271)
as it related to the offensive scheme being new, wouldnt Chambers have a hard time gettting on board and Wade and Bowe and Bradley running new routes, new plays?
Routes don't change.

Terminology does, but not the actual route.

You could make the claim that the timing between the QB and WR's could have been off, but if you watched closely, Cassel wasn't operating on timing, he was waiting for the WR to actually get open, and then throwing the ball.

Which is part of the reason why he was sacked as many times as he was, he was waiting for the WR to get open, instead of throwing before the WR makes their break, like good QB's do.

It also explains part of his completion percentage, because waiting gives away any advantage you may have had over the DB, because he now has time to react and defend the late pass.

SAUTO 01-06-2010 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415266)
Jim Miller is a former QUARTERBACK.

As someone that is still employed by the Bears, knows the personnel and playbook and understands the responsibilities of both the QB and WR's, then yeah, I trust his opinion.

If you've ever listened to him on Sirius, or on CSN Chicago, you'd know he's as fair and balanced an analyst as there is.

We know you trust nothing, and no one, so I'm talking to a brick wall.

I shouldn't even waste my time.
Thank You. he is employed by the bears. like i said i saw most bears games and cutler sucked almost all year. then to throw an INT and walk off and laugh on the sideline.... douchebag.


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