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keg in kc 02-03-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6501817)
I know we were horrible. Reeally really bad team. Herm was such a great refresher after the fail that was DV.

How many of those guys did the chiefs draft in the top 5?

philfree 02-03-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6501849)
Who cares if he sucks or not? Replacing a guy you already have after 2 years is idiotic.

I'm not wanting to draft an OT in the 1st round but Pioli and Haley didn't draft Albert so I don't think it really matters to them if he's only been in the league for two years. If their evaluation leads them to believe that Albert isn't their LT then they shouldn't hesitate to replace him. I hope they give him another year and draft some defense early on in the draft. And also if they upgrade other positions on the line maybe that will clear the way for Albert to reach our expectations.


PhilFree:arrow:

Dave Lane 02-03-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6501860)
How many of those guys did the chiefs draft in the top 5?

None. Which to my basic point on LT. Who cares? Maybe Okung is great maybe he's not. Same with Berry. Never take a safety in the top 10 is the basic rule. He may turn out great he may not. He'd be a great addition but I'm not locked in to Berry or bust. I'd like Suh if I was getting anyone but he might go Jamarcus bust on us to. I'll actually give all the analysts in the world some credit and the scouts too. No one on this board knows more than they do or has any of their livelihood tied up in making scouting decisions. When any of you get a check from a NFL team let us know and I definitely will pay closer attention.

Chiefnj2 02-03-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6501848)
and if you actually watched him play pass blocking isn't his thing.

Not true at all.

WildTurkey 02-03-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6501888)
None. Which to my basic point on LT. Who cares? Maybe Okung is great maybe he's not. Same with Berry. Never take a safety in the top 10 is the basic rule. He may turn out great he may not. He'd be a great addition but I'm not locked in to Berry or bust. I'd like Suh if I was getting anyone but he might go Jamarcus bust on us to. I'll actually give all the analysts in the world some credit and the scouts too. No one on this board knows more than they do or has any of their livelihood tied up in making scouting decisions. When any of you get a check from a NFL team let us know and I definitely will pay closer attention.

I disagree, I think we know the Chiefs a hell of a lot more than your average draft site or talking head... You're right about the scouting part we are not scouts but we are passionate fans and have every right to nit pick and bitch about the draft

Danman 02-03-2010 12:34 PM

Saccopoo,

Did Albert steal your Girl/car/beer/oreo cookies? You gots a lotta hate for one guy

BossChief 02-03-2010 12:34 PM

1) Okung
2a) Iupati
2b) Johnson
3) Pouncey

If we are gonna do it, might as well get it over with and never have to talk about it agaain, right?

Just shoot me

Dave Lane 02-03-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6501916)
I disagree, I think we know the Chiefs a hell of a lot more than your average draft site or talking head... You're right about the scouting part we are not scouts but we are passionate fans and have every right to nit pick and bitch about the draft

Fine nitpick. Say you don't like the pick or this guy because X Y or Z. Its fine. It doesn't make someone a reerun because they disagree. No one has ANY idea how any of these guys will do. The draft is the biggest crapshoot in the history of the world. Anyone who is acting like they know how this draft will shake out is delusional.

philfree 02-03-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6501950)
1) Okung
2a) Iupati
2b) Johnson
3) Pouncey

If we are gonna do it, might as well get it over with and never have to talk about it agaain, right?

Just shoot me


It's pretty funny really. LOL


PhilFree:arrow:

keg in kc 02-03-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6501888)
None. Which to my basic point on LT. Who cares? Maybe Okung is great maybe he's not. Same with Berry. Never take a safety in the top 10 is the basic rule. He may turn out great he may not. He'd be a great addition but I'm not locked in to Berry or bust. I'd like Suh if I was getting anyone but he might go Jamarcus bust on us to. I'll actually give all the analysts in the world some credit and the scouts too. No one on this board knows more than they do or has any of their livelihood tied up in making scouting decisions. When any of you get a check from a NFL team let us know and I definitely will pay closer attention.

I'll take the best safety prospect of the last decade over a LT who'd be a mid- to low-1st in a draft with any blue-chip tackles.

I'd have no problem with Suh for the same reason I'd have no problem with Barry. They're generational players.

Whereas Okung is a guy who doesn't even grade higher than the guy (drafted two years ago), that he'd be picked to replace.

It makes absolutely zero sense.

As for the "when any of you get a check from an NFL team", well, none of the draft "analysts" get one either, last I checked. They talk to people on the phone, read analysis. They're like glorified mecca's. They just happen to get paid for the stuff they conjure out of the ether.

Not that it matters. I mean, seriously, this is a discussion on a ****ing bulletin board.

Brock 02-03-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6501950)
1) Okung
2a) Iupati
2b) Johnson
3) Pouncey

If we are gonna do it, might as well get it over with and never have to talk about it agaain, right?

Just shoot me

WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE, JUST LIKE WHEN WE PUT HOLMES AND JOHNSON IN THE SAME BACKFIELD

Mecca 02-03-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6501837)
Yep I have to admit it no one knows OL like CP draftniks unquestioned.

T Russell Okung - One of three finalists for the Outland Trophy, Okung allowed just one sack and two quarterback pressures all season. He was credited with 127 knockdown blocks and 58 domination blocks. OSU led the Big 12 in rushing for the fourth consecutive season.

Suckage

Those awards and stats mean nothing to scouts when it comes to looking at how they project to the next level.

Coogs 02-03-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6501950)
1) Okung
2a) Iupati
2b) Johnson
3) Pouncey

If we are gonna do it, might as well get it over with and never have to talk about it agaain, right?

Just shoot me

Wouldn't we still need a RT since neither Okung or Albert fit that discription?

BossChief 02-03-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6502210)
Wouldn't we still need a RT since neither Okung or Albert fit that discription?

if details were involved we wouldnt be having this conversation in the first place...

Coogs 02-03-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6502278)
if details were involved we wouldnt be having this conversation in the first place...

ROFL:clap:


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