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TRR 02-15-2010 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6535011)
I think it's because you once said....this...

And who would that QB be? There isn't a Peyton Manning or Carson Palmer in the 2008 draft. Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm, and Andre Woodson would all be very late 1st, if not 2nd round selections in almost any other years draft.

Unfortanely IMO, Ryan and the bunch don't bring much more to the table than Croyle, especially if the O Line is not rebuilt.
2 out of 3 aint bad....and Ryan has a lot to prove still....
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Mecca 02-15-2010 09:06 PM
When I read the phrase "Hey Ryan ain't much better than Croyle" that is a typical KC QB fan thing to say.

It comes out every year.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:07 PM
What I've learned in this thread, is that unless you give Cassel studs everywhere, no one can criticize him.

I'm going to go to the other 15 teams in the NFL that have shit QBs and let them know that no fans can be critical of those QBs because they don't have good skill position players.

Mecca 02-15-2010 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535025)
What I've learned in this thread, is that unless you give Cassel studs everywhere, no one can criticize him.

I'm going to go to the other 15 teams in the NFL that have shit QBs and let them know that no fans can be critical of those QBs because they don't have good skill position players.
It's a travesty that Washington is going to replace Jason Campbell, Trent Edwards also subscribes to this notion.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6535016)
WTF, do you think you're Carl Peterson? I just fired that dipshit and now you make a move he would make!
I keep reading this, and it's complete bullshit every time.

Carl Peterson signed players he had no first-hand knowledge of. Pioli was around Cassel, knew alot about him, and obviously had a lot of faith in his abilities.

The only comparison is Trent Green with Vermeil.

Carl Peterson never had a comfort level with any of the 49ers QBs he acquired prior.

TRR 02-15-2010 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6535023)
When I read the phrase "Hey Ryan ain't much better than Croyle" that is a typical KC QB fan thing to say.

It comes out every year.
I didn't say he wasn't much better than Croyle...I said at the time that I didn't think he brought much more to the table. Was I wrong? Time will tell.

Ryan has exceeded expectations in my eyes thus far....but I was spot on with Woodson and Brohm up till now.

We could go back to any poster on this board and pull up a ridiculous quote FWIW...especially you.
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The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6535027)
It's a travesty that Washington is going to replace Jason Campbell, Trent Edwards also subscribes to this notion.
Yep. We just can't accuarately criticize Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, or Brady Quinn either.

Mecca 02-15-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6535035)
I didn't say he wasn't much better than Croyle...I said at the time that I didn't think he brought much more to the table. Was I wrong? Time will tell.

Ryan has exceeded expectations in my eyes thus far....but I was spot on with Woodson and Brohm up till now.

We could go back to any poster on this board and pull up a ridiculous quote FWIW...especially you.
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If you said every QB was going to suck you'd get more right than you got wrong, that's the general argument every year. 'QB is risky" "this guy isn't that good" etc etc etc.

It's just to bad that in a QB driven league until you find one you're on the outside looking in.

ChiefsCountry 02-15-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535025)
What I've learned in this thread, is that unless you give Cassel studs everywhere, no one can criticize him.
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

TRR 02-15-2010 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535025)
What I've learned in this thread, is that unless you give Cassel studs everywhere, no one can criticize him.

I'm going to go to the other 15 teams in the NFL that have shit QBs and let them know that no fans can be critical of those QBs because they don't have good skill position players.
If you can truly judge Cassel on the trainwreck that was last years offense, then I will send a letter of recommendation to all the NFL teams in the league begging for you to get a job as a scout.

Only time will tell who's right and who's wrong.
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Mecca 02-15-2010 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.
It's really hard to throw WR screen passes man.

The Bad Guy 02-15-2010 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.
That's a little exaggerated as well. Do some of you really think he's going to come in and be a flawless player when he didn't start a real game in 8 years? I mean, he did perform well with top-notch talent, but it's like you can plug and play any QB into that spot and get above average production.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535032)
I keep reading this, and it's complete bullshit every time.

Carl Peterson signed players he had no first-hand knowledge of. Pioli was around Cassel, knew alot about him, and obviously had a lot of faith in his abilities.

The only comparison is Trent Green with Vermeil.

Carl Peterson never had a comfort level with any of the 49ers QBs he acquired prior.
Joe Montana. Hackett was the OC when he was acquired.

And this obviously started the trend, so I'd say it's pretty applicable.

TRR 02-15-2010 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.
Lol!!!

Deeper and deeper it gets.
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Mecca 02-15-2010 09:18 PM
The thing is Cassel has the same problem he had when he played for NE, his deep ball is horrible and his accuracy is highly questionable, the further he gets down the field the more wild it gets.

He's still that same guy.


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