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pkane 03-16-2010 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608848)
Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
Yes I read it. Maybe speculation was the wrong term, but it doesn't say that he for sure failed a physical. Nothing concrete. I am sure most NFL lineman have poor health or are always sore or have bad knees- most wear knee braces anyways.

Bill Lundberg 03-16-2010 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6608857)
I haven't had the time to look, but how many games did Ryan Lilja miss in 2009?
Posted via Mobile Device
0 after missing all of 2008

dirk digler 03-16-2010 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608848)
Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
Reportedly?
Quote:
Craig Domann, Lilja’s agent, said the release was not necessarily financially-driven. The team paid Lilja a $1.7 million roster bonus he was due, then terminated his contract. Lilja was due to earn a base salary of $3.055 million in 2010.

"They said they want to go bigger, and they let him go,’’ Domann said. "Ryan was disappointed, but I know he’ll land on his feet.’’

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pkane (Post 6608860)
Yes I read it. Maybe speculation was the wrong term, but it doesn't say that he for sure failed a physical. Nothing concrete. I am sure most NFL lineman have poor health or are always sore or have bad knees- most wear knee braces anyways.
You're exaggerating.

It's been reported by more than one source that he failed a physical. NFL teams weren't exactly lining up to sign the guy.

I think it's 50/50 that he even makes it through Haley's training camp.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6608866)
Reportedly?
Uh, yeah.

But I'm sure you always trust the word of an agent, right?

:evil:

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6608866)
Reportedly?
Wait you expect an agent to admit his client has bad knees?

dirk digler 03-16-2010 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608870)
Uh, yeah.

But I'm sure you always trust the word of an agent, right?

:evil:
Always ;)

In this case it appears to be the truth considering they have signed 2 guards that are well over 300lbs.

BossChief 03-16-2010 03:54 PM
If his knees dont become problematic for us in the future, this will prove to be a very good signing.

nychief 03-16-2010 03:56 PM
some serious analysis going on here.... so, if a player is healthy, he will play better?

pkane 03-16-2010 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608868)
You're exaggerating.

It's been reported by more than one source that he failed a physical. NFL teams weren't exactly lining up to sign the guy.

I think it's 50/50 that he even makes it through Haley's training camp.
I'm exaggerating?

50/50 to make the team? Come on.

BossChief 03-16-2010 04:01 PM
His knees were good enough to start 19 games in 2009...

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pkane (Post 6608892)
I'm exaggerating?

50/50 to make the team? Come on.
Come on, what?

He's having knee issues. The only team in the league to sign him was 4-12 last year and he's a two-time Super Bowl starter. As we all know, Haley runs very intense training camps. Guys last year sat on exercise bikes when they weren't able to participate. He has a mandatory conditioning drill, in which a few guys failed last year.

There's no guarantee he'll make it out of camp.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6608903)
His knees were good enough to start 19 games in 2009...
And poor enough to be released immediately thereafter

ChiTown 03-16-2010 04:03 PM
I'm really impressed there's this much discussion over this signing. Lemme guess, it's the off-season? It's like feeding a mouse to a tank full of starving Piranha's

:D

Mr. Flopnuts 03-16-2010 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608815)
Eh, I like what the Chiefs have done in this offseason much better than last season.

Chambers proved he could still play at an average to above average level, so I liked his re-sigining. I think that TJ can most certainly help the Chiefs this season, espeically given that Charles has had issues staying healthy week to week in the past.

I'm not real high on the Lilja signing because obviously, I thought that Wade Smith was a better option.

As long as Lilja's signing doesn't interfere with the development of Colin Brown, I'll be okay with it. But if it's like last year, where Goff was clearly the worst lineman on the team yet continued to play when healthy, it won't sit well with me.

At all.
Great take.


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