There's never no chance, but he carries a huge risk with far less potential upside than someone like Graham.

Even more laughingly, he's smaller and slower than Brad Cottam as well. Of course, I fully expect that Cottam will be cut because he's not one of the Brahman, so a direct comparison will be difficult.

I'll ask you this much:

Was trading up to get Tony Moeaki worth Cam Thomas?

A week ago, did you know who Tony Moeaki was, and did you have him in the same galaxy of his ability to help this team as a Cam Thomas?

See above. Arenas is going to be a stud nickel back and should be a phenomenal returner.

He's a game changer and that's exactly what this team needs.

I promise you he'll suck at nickelback. One this team has no pass rush. Two. He's not quick at all watch the BCS Title game he was owned by Shipley.

As a returner? Watch the Senoir Bowl game he doesn't have break away speed. He's shifty but not fast.

Who is worth more:

An outside linebacker in a 3-4 who can harass the QB
A 0 technique who can command consistent double teams
A potential franchise QB
A slot receiver with size and speed
A legit #2 receiver


or Dave Meggett

I think McCluster's absolute upside is Dave Meggett.

He'll be a good player, but he's not worth more than the above.

Arenas was absolutely dismantled by Jordan Shipley.

Dave Meggett was a bit before my time wasn't he a running back?

Cody was a two down player so at that pick I would say it's a reach.

I wanted to draft a OLB.

The Benn pick would have been ok but #2 WR isn't a need for this team.



This sort of reminds me of last years draft had Pioli drafted Harvin people would be pissed at the time but now would be ok with it.

Another question:

Drafts are a result of player evaluation skills, obviously, but so are UDFA pickups. The teams who have the best drafts also tend to be the best at getting UDFAs. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, etc.

Now, look at who they have brought it so far in UDFA

Look at who we have brought in

I think that can tell you a lot about the respective franchises' abilities to evaluate talent, and an extension of that can be applied to this draft.

LMAO Ok. Drafting him were you did was one thing. Giving a 2,3 and 4 to get there is OMGWTFBBQLMAO

Thomas fell all the way to #146. Clearly, more than one team had some reservations about the guy.

Arenas had six career picks at Alabama ROFL

Sure, running the ticket booth, no doubt.

Hamas:

A legitimate question here:

What's the difference in selecting Tony Moeaki vs. selecting Sergio Kindle, not taking in their point of selection but factoring it more on taking a flyer on an injured player?

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Benn can be a #1 WR. At 50, I was talking about guys like Golden Tate or Damien Williams, who can be slot and #2 guys, respectively.

If we would have drafted any of those 3 at 36, let alone 50 for Tate or Williams, people would have universally lauded those as excellent value picks.


And Dave Meggett was a KR/PR/WR/RB

He had 530 receiving yards his rookie year and around 120 rushing yards, but was one of the best KR and PR in the league (although I don't see McCluster doing either one of those)

He was 5'7 190 pounds.


I guaran****ingtee you, that if you look at Pioli's history and absolute fealty to Parcells and the Patriot way, he didn't think of McCluster as Wes Welker, he thought of him as Dave Meggett.

Whats it say when you basically repeat the same draft in a row aside from a few guys? The Washington, Brown, McConnell picks look like a total waste.

A possible explanation could be that he was good enough that no one threw in his direction? I don't know if that is the right answer...but it's a possible explanation.

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