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Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6884060)
I agree, but professional athletes are also in the EXTREME minority. And many bodybuilders that would be classified as obese are also on steroids, which isn't taken into account by BMI for obvious reasons.

You don't have to be a professional athlete to have those body types. I was just using the Pros to point out that even those who are quite fit can fall under the "obese" category when BMI is being used.

It's a very poor method of analysis.

Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884069)
I'm not arguing that the American lifestyle hasn't changed.

I'm only arguing that the change in the food industry is the reason we're fat.

Maybe the change in the lifestyle prompted the change in the food industry, but the change in the lifestyle isn't to blame. The food industry didn't HAVE to start being a bastion of giant portion sizes and processed crap. We didn't ASK it to become that.

McDonald's existed before the obesity epidemic. Frozen foods existed then, too, as did advertising.

Your argument is lousy because you've flipped cause and effect.

Donger 07-16-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884069)
The food industry didn't HAVE to start being a bastion of giant portion sizes and processed crap. We didn't ASK it to become that.

Of course "we" did, through our purchasing their product. I suppose you could argue that the first crappy fast food joint was a roll of the dice, but no one forced all the people to shoe up and eat their product.

Kyle DeLexus 07-16-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6884056)
50 years ago, your mother was at home cooking and cleaning. Dad was out working. When dad came home, dinner was on the table. This used to be the way it worked for the majority of Americans.

Today, your mother and father (assuming they are together) are both out working. Neither has time to make meals at home, because neither is home.



http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=9305

So your saying this whole Women's Rights Movement thing is to blame?

Donger 07-16-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884069)
I'm only arguing that the change in the food industry is the reason we're fat.

Bullshit. It enables people who choose to eat that way get fat.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6884079)
McDonald's existed before the obesity epidemic.

Well shit, America didn't get fat in a year. The Bacon Ultimate Cheeseburger wasn't even around. Progress from normal burgers to disgustingly fattening greaseballs takes time.

As soon as McDonalds became successful, the ball started rolling. And slowly people became fatter and fatter and fatter.....

Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was the fattest country on earth.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6884087)
Bullshit. It enables people who choose to eat that way get fat.

People didn't sit in their houses and grill up three burger patties and six slices of bacon and four slices of cheese and put it on a toasted bun and serve it with 32 ounces of coke and a side of deep-fried potatoes before the fast food industry blew up.

And they DAMN sure didn't do it three times a week. Or worse, every day.

So no, people did not CHOOSE to eat that way. The option was presented to them, and the option was made extremely accessible.

ClevelandBronco 07-16-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884048)
Like I said, I had no desire for popcorn when I sat down in that movie theater. I was thinking about the movie.

Suddenly I wanted popcorn.

What everyone desires most is to satisfy an emotional need. You've come to associate popcorn and other food with emotional satisfaction. They're selling you your own emotional emptiness and the desire to fill that emotional emptiness with popcorn.

Food advertising doesn't work on some of us because we have other lusts that advertising takes advantage of.

Show me popcorn all day long, and I just don't get it.

vailpass 07-16-2010 04:27 PM

I wonder what my bmi is? Not that it is any business of our government.
I welcome measures such as this, they push us one step closer to realizing the very real threats we as a free people are facing and hopefully will wake us up in time.

Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884096)
Well shit, America didn't get fat in a year. The Bacon Ultimate Cheeseburger wasn't even around. Progress from normal burgers to disgustingly fattening greaseballs takes time.

As soon as McDonalds became successful, the ball started rolling. And slowly people became fatter and fatter and fatter.....

Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was the fattest country on earth.

The Bacon Ultimate Cheeseburger wasn't around and people still gained weight. McDonald's has been around for about 70 years, yet the obesity "epidemic" didn't really begin until about 10-15 years ago, and a fair part of the increase is due to the changes in how the classifications are determined. Try to wrap your mind around that.

ChiefsCountry 07-16-2010 04:29 PM

I wish I could tell all my advertising clients that everyone is like GoChiefs, whatever I say in the ad he wants to go eat it.

Donger 07-16-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884100)
People didn't sit in their houses and grill up three burger patties and six slices of bacon and four slices of cheese and put it on a toasted bun and serve it with 32 ounces of coke and a side of deep-fried potatoes before the fast food industry blew up.

And they DAMN sure didn't do it three times a week. Or worse, every day.

So no, people did not CHOOSE to eat that way. The option was presented to them, and the option was made extremely accessible.

Again, unless they were forced to eat it, they did choose to devour such meals.

Please note that I've no doubt that fast food has quite a bit to do with our obesity problem. But, I also acknowledge that there would be no supply without demand.

Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884100)
People didn't sit in their houses and grill up three burger patties and six slices of bacon and four slices of cheese and put it on a toasted bun and serve it with 32 ounces of coke and a side of deep-fried potatoes before the fast food industry blew up.

And they DAMN sure didn't do it three times a week. Or worse, every day.

So no, people did not CHOOSE to eat that way. The option was presented to them, and the option was made extremely accessible.

This may be the stupidest thing posted in the history of the internet.

Donger 07-16-2010 04:30 PM

I just checked my BMI. I'm ****ed.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 04:31 PM

By the way, it's not JUST about fast food. The portion sizes at sit down restaurants are ABSURD.


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