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Crush 09-21-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7025120)
Speaking of him, apparently he's got an office job now, so he can bury people officially.


That's funny. I thought he hated jobbing.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7026460)
Peyton Manning had plenty of time in the pocket against the Saints in the SB.

Ryan Lilja was available because Bill Polian had to find someone to deflect blame away from Manning for that loss.

Yep.

And he's since apologized.

KCrockaholic 09-21-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7026455)
If a Chiefsplanet member called Berry a bust, he should be banned for a year.

Petro? He's just trying to stir up controversy so people will listen to his show.

He can't be that dumb. At least I hope not.

Exactly.

Mecca 09-21-2010 10:20 PM

I think it has more to do with Petro wanting to look like he was right when he beat that no safety at 5 drum for months.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2010 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7026471)
I think it has more to do with Petro wanting to look like he was right when he beat that no safety at 5 drum for months.

I don't.

The Chiefs are 2-0. Most casual fans think that's great and that the Chiefs are back and on their way to the playoffs. They don't understand or watch Cassel, his poor mechanics, lack of leadership and so on, so Petro needs an easy target.

Berry's an easy target for the uninformed masses. You know, the same people that think Brandon Carr sucked last year when in reality, it was Mike Brown.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-21-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7026471)
I think it has more to do with Petro wanting to look like he was right when he beat that no safety at 5 drum for months.

That guy is so ****ing useless. He was ESPECIALLY useless leading up to the 2009 draft and at times, I'd rather listen to audio of wild chimpanzees flinging shit at each other for three hours.

Mecca 09-21-2010 10:23 PM

Does anyone think Cassel is good, even my mom thinks he blows.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-21-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7026476)
I don't.

The Chiefs are 2-0. Most casual fans think that's great and that the Chiefs are back and on their way to the playoffs. They don't understand or watch Cassel, his poor mechanics, lack of leadership and so on, so Petro needs an easy target.

Berry's an easy target for the uninformed masses. You know, the same people that think Brandon Carr sucked last year when in reality, it was Mike Brown.

Yeah, funny how Carr has "magically" improved ain't it?

Saccopoo 09-21-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7026447)
Oh, just stop it. The Chiefs didn't make center a priority in the draft because they nabbed Weigman in free agency. Hell, the Chiefs haven't drafted a center since 1990!

They nabbed Weigmann in free agency? They let him go two seasons ago because they thought he was too old. Denver let him go this last season because they thought he was too old.

Casey plays balls out. However, picking up a 38 year old center after he's been released twice because he's too old for football isn't exactly making sure you're covered at that position. That's a stop gap at best. I'm glad he's back, and never wanted him to be released in the first place, but it's a stop gap.

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Asamoah was a four year starter at right guard. Why the **** would you move HIM to accommodate a veteran?

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Really? A four year college guy at the position. I wonder...how long did Branden Albert play LG in college? God forbid that someone would move someone out of position...

And, by the way, how long has Ryan Lilja played RG?

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You're worried? LMAO

Just stop it, Dude. They'll be fine.
They won't be fine. They are in trouble at the O-line positions, which are now being held by guys who are really old in terms of NFL years and have tackles who aren't very good. That's not fine.

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My "analysis" is completely different than yours. The 2010 line is FINE. They need to move Lilja to LG and Asamoah to RG in 2011 and either draft or acquire a younger center.

DONE.
Super. I'm glad that's worked out. I guess that I should start worrying about the receiving corps instead.

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JFC, You DO NOT build an offensive line and THEN add a "Franchise QB".

Anyone of those guys I mentioned (Manning, Manning, Schaub, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Ryan, Romo, Brady etc.) would start behind this line with NO issues.
If Manning wanted Lilja, he'd still be in Indy. That's a fact. And right now, he's our best offensive lineman.

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Bullshit. He was sacked 47 times in New England behind the same line in which Tom Brady was sacked only 21 times.
I never said that Cassel was the end all be all of QB's. The guy isn't good. He holds onto the ball too long. He's got bad pocket presence. But playing behind a dogshit line isn't helping matters.

If you can clone Manning, then great. But I don't see a guy like Manning being available in the free agent market all that often.

wazu 09-21-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7026455)
If a Chiefsplanet member called Berry a bust, he should be banned for a year.

Petro? He's just trying to stir up controversy so people will listen to his show.

He can't be that dumb. At least I hope not.

Was listening today, and can tell you that Soren was going "all-in" on this topic. Yes, I am sure he likes stirring up interest in his show, but, as mentioned, the guy went right to Wizards soccer following the segment. I changed the channel to another station that was playing commercials.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-21-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 7026490)
Was listening today, and can tell you that Soren was going "all-in" on this topic. Yes, I am sure he likes stirring up interest in his show, but, as mentioned, the guy went right to Wizards soccer following the segment. I changed the channel to another station that was playing commercials.

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KCrockaholic 09-21-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7026479)
Does anyone think Cassel is good, even my mom thinks he blows.

lol I literally saw a guy on the Chiefs facebook group say that he almost likes Cassel as much as Trent Green.

Pathetic. I think this is the "uninformed" group that Dane is referring to.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-21-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7026479)
Does anyone think Cassel is good, even my mom thinks he blows.

I can't believe so many people have his jersey. Does anyone else notice that? There's quite a few in the stands. They are probably intoxicated so much that they don't even know what's going on during the games lol.

Mecca 09-21-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 7026503)
lol I literally saw a guy on the Chiefs facebook group say that he almost likes Cassel as much as Trent Green.

Pathetic. I think this is the "uninformed" group that Dane is referring to.

Seriously? During games my mom who is like 54 years old and doesn't know much about sports sends me text messages like "Cassel sucks".

I figured she was the barometer for a casual fan.

KCrockaholic 09-21-2010 10:40 PM

For arguments sake.

Troy Polamalu rookie season:

38 total tackles - 2 sacks - 0 INTs - 4 Passes defensed

Ed Reed rookie season:

85 total tackles - 1 sack - 5 INTs - 7 passes defensed

Berry is well on his way to over 100 total tackles, and the INTs and such will come with time. It's waaay too early for Petro to be making any claims like that. Tard.

Blown coverages...Unknown. Maybe somebody has that info somewhere in the web? I'm sure they made a few mistakes, especially Troy. He's a high risk, high reward type player, similar to Berry.


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