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Rain Man 02-11-2011 06:48 PM

There was some post on either that blog or another one that it linked to that said that the death rate on Everest is 6 percent, but that it's 40 percent on Annapurna.

Now, I wouldn't want to roll the dice on 6 percent, but 40 percent? Is that really true? 40 percent? And I'd wager that all 100 percent thought they were well trained and well prepared. There's no way on earth I'd accept a 40 percent risk of dying.

alnorth 02-11-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7425180)
Ok, without using Google.. name the top 5 Olympic sprinters in the world right now?

It's interesting in a .. "wow that's kinda neat" then I never think about it again way... let's not pretend you FOLLOW it... anyway.. we're getting off topic...

Name the top 5 NFL running backs in the world today. Those guys also didn't have to deal with the inferior protective equipment that runnings backs had to deal with a generation or so ago, but that doesn't (and shouldn't) bother anyone.

Popularity shouldn't be relevant.

Hydrae 02-11-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7425208)
There was some post on either that blog or another one that it linked to that said that the death rate on Everest is 6 percent, but that it's 40 percent on Annapurna.

Now, I wouldn't want to roll the dice on 6 percent, but 40 percent? Is that really true? 40 percent? And I'd wager that all 100 percent thought they were well trained and well prepared. There's no way on earth I'd accept a 40 percent risk of dying.

Certainly not to climb a mountain.

"Because it is there."

Yeah, there are a lot of other things "there." I think I will leave the big, deadly mountain alone for now. Thanks anyway.

alnorth 02-11-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7425208)
There was some post on either that blog or another one that it linked to that said that the death rate on Everest is 6 percent, but that it's 40 percent on Annapurna.

Now, I wouldn't want to roll the dice on 6 percent, but 40 percent? Is that really true? 40 percent? And I'd wager that all 100 percent thought they were well trained and well prepared. There's no way on earth I'd accept a 40 percent risk of dying.

Just for fun, I grabbed my TI calculator and used the random number generator. 0.079060....

So, I would have just barely survived Everest, but I would have suffered a horrible death on Annapurna, whatever the hell that is.

Rain Man 02-11-2011 06:58 PM

Wow. Annapurna is 40 percent. Amazing.

http://gearjunkie.com/worlds-10-most...rous-mountains

I like the mountain below it, Nanga Parbat. The first 31 people who attempted it died in the process.

Here's another list that's slightly different, but also interesting: http://matadornetwork.com/trips/11-m...d-for-climbers

Here's an interesting blog post on Annapurna: http://blog.stadum.com/2007/02/annap...-mountain.html

Rain Man 02-11-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7425214)
Just for fun, I grabbed my TI calculator and used the random number generator. 0.079060....

So, I would have just barely survived Everest, but I would have suffered a horrible death on Annapurna, whatever the hell that is.

Now try with Annapurna at 41 percent. Yeesh.

Simplex3 02-11-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7425217)
Wow. Annapurna is 40 percent. Amazing.

http://gearjunkie.com/worlds-10-most...rous-mountains

I like the mountain below it, Nanga Parbat. The first 31 people who attempted it died in the process.

Here's another list that's slightly different, but also interesting: http://matadornetwork.com/trips/11-m...d-for-climbers

Here's an interesting blog post on Annapurna: http://blog.stadum.com/2007/02/annap...-mountain.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-thousander

That one has the death rates before 1990 and since. 3 of them have actually gotten *more* dangerous.

Rain Man 02-11-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3 (Post 7425230)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-thousander

That one has the death rates before 1990 and since. 3 of them have actually gotten *more* dangerous.


I could walk up Gasherbrum II. Piece of cake.

And those Poles really know their winter climbing.

notorious 02-11-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7424951)
Not if it's frozen, it isn't.

At that point it becomes ice.


or so I've been told......

notorious 02-11-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7425191)
You can use the suit to climb up Everest, but if you use it you have to sing the National Anthem next to every dead body you see in the Dead Zone, and you can only use ladders across chasms between the hours of 10 and 2.

So you can use suits, but you just have to follow the rules.


And you have to take a shot for every dead body.


Boilermaker for every body that is not laying down.



It would take probably .1 ounces of liquor to get completely shit-plowed at that altitude.

HonestChieffan 02-11-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 7423692)
Thanks. I have been meaning to read The Climb for a while but kind of forgot about it. Will also pick up the Ed Viesturs book. I have also been meaning to read more about K2 which seems much more technical than Everest and I recall something similar to the Everest debacle happening in the 80's.

Great read. I know the Bolivian Doctors wife that the book discusses. At the time he was the oldest to summit. He died on the way down under unusual circumstances....http://www.amazon.com/High-Crimes-Fa.../dp/1401302734

ThaVirus 02-11-2011 09:24 PM

Climbing mountains... That's about the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

rtmike 02-11-2011 10:51 PM

As noble as it may be to try to help other climbers' up on Everest, HTH do you cross all the ladders up there?




http://www.everestnews.com/everest20...mbaIceFall.jpg



http://www.everestsa.co.za/images/Cl...0290%20pix.jpg

http://www.mountainsoftravelphotos.c...%20Icefall.jpg

http://images.imagestate.com/Watermark/APF1535.jpg

rtmike 02-12-2011 12:38 AM

Awesome thread. :thumb:

I've been mesmerized for 2 days looking up any listed links. Several books/dvds I now need to check out.

My rep stick is minuscule so I don't even know if it went through, but thanks.

Dylan 02-12-2011 02:05 AM

This is a great Web site, where climbers come for news and stories:

http://www.everestnews.com/


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