10 mostly ineffective carries today, bringing his season total to 52.

Praying for an injury.

You act like he has the effectiveness of Jones. He hasn't been a star by any means, or consistant. That being said he has made some plays and I don't watch him and see total bust. Why does it always have to be he sucks or he is aweseome. Great teams have average players on them, especially when they are role players.

He is not close to average.

He touched the ball 11 times today and did something noteworthy with it one time.

He no longer contributes as a receiver or a returner.

He is a worthless, dime-a-dozen piece of shit we could find on the street.

He's effective getting about 10 touches a game if we can get him into space. We need to be creative with him and not be so damn predictable.

This is not true. He is not effective in space.

when has he had space this year?

He has been one on one with defenders and failed to do anything.

In fact he has a history of this going back to last season before his injury.

He is not a good player, he is not a threat, he is a small guy who is not really good at anything in this league.

I do agree he should do more in space. I just don't see the need to get rid of him when he is on a rookie contract and is still young and can improve. I don't have an issue with you saying he hasn't been good, but writing him off is what I have an issue with. He can still help our offense. I think you just put a line in the sand this offseason and you don't want to look at the idea that he may be a decent part of the offense, even if he never is a bell cow of that offense.

Come on Gif, he is.

I think he would be alot more effective with a healthy Charles. Again I will agree with you that 10 snaps is all he is good for. But there were times today when it didn't matter what he did there was a gang there to tackle him.

They need to just tinker with him and get him the ball in space. Be creative like that jet sweep today or catches out of the backfield.


But yes Clay, at this point he is what he is. If used properly he could be of use tho.

He is not going to improve his talent level.

That is why he sucks.

Its his second year. You may be right on the long run, but you can't possibly know that. Plenty of people look bad their first few years before they find their groove. There is no reason to get rid of him right now.

Name a scatback or little guy who sucked his first two years and went on to be good.

Name one.

One.

ok!

Darren Sproles

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...darren-sproles

That and its not really a position that has a lot of history compared to others. The other issue is, to me, becoming a good player is not isolated on certain positions. Every position holds the ability to improve over time.

Fail, Hootie.

Darren Sproles was an excellent return man his rookie season.