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Frankie 12-12-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8195095)
No. No. No. I will not accept this.

I am so worried of Pioli hiring McDaniels that this news/rumor actually makes me strangely happy.

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8195104)
I guess Stanzi is the QBOTF then.

Can't be any worse.

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 8195118)
Great, a college guy.

Pete Carroll part deux.

Actually he has a pro background.

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8195138)
Moeaki jumped up in celebration and broke an ankle

ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-12-2011 11:29 PM

Dude runs an O that makes Herm look like Martz.

NJChiefsFan 12-12-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8198598)
I hadn't thought this was truly a possible option prior to this year. Especially while Haley was still employed. Today changed that a little bit. Pioli, as arrogant as he is, isn't altogether stupid. Do you really think he'd fire Haley with no idea whatsoever who would replace him? As highly as Pioli thinks of himself, I doubt he would leave this up to luck.

Besides, given the possibilities talked about for Haley's replacement up to this point, for me, it's either Ferentz or Gruden. Not a huge fan of the other possibilities.

With Haley ready to quit I am not sure their relationship would have lasted even if Pioli wanted to wait. Either way he probably knew he needed to get the Chiefs name in the coaching ring ASAP. Not doubting he had serious ideas of who it was, but I don't think he would have held on to Todd if he didn't have a serious option.

aturnis 12-12-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8198613)
Dude runs an O that makes Herm look like Martz.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Actually Iowa's offense isn't much different than the Chiefs offense at all. Aside from a few player strengths, like Charles being deadly fast, changing some tendencies. We lack the ability for the OL to block and to run up the middle. Fix the OL and get a decent sized back and we'd be good there. Iowa's offense has way more big plays in the passing game though...

NJChiefsFan 12-12-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8198677)
. Iowa's offense has way more big plays in the passing game though...

Well lets be honest, its hard to have less than a Cassel led team.

aturnis 12-12-2011 11:58 PM

In their senior years, with Stanzi playing in a pro-style offense, Stanzi threw for 3,004yds. Just 182yds. less than what Gabbert threw for in 130 less attempts. Threw 9 more TD's too.

NJChiefsFan 12-13-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8198698)
In their senior years, with Stanzi playing in a pro-style offense, Stanzi threw for 3,004yds. Just 182yds. less than what Gabbert threw for in 130 less attempts. Threw 9 more TD's too.

I am just saying lets not use the Chiefs passing game as proof of anything. I am all for letting Stanzi start the last 3 games. I was all for him starting the last 8. I don't know about Ferentz. Truth be told, I can live with anything that means no Cassel. That is the first goal. Nothing good can happen until he is gone.

JohnnyHammersticks 12-13-2011 12:11 AM

Ferentz is also a great judge of character, as only 11 of Iowa's football players got suspended in a massive drug scandal last year. Couple that with Pioli's talent-judging abilities (ie, Matt Cassel's $60+ million contract), and they both should be long gone by the 2015 season.

Then Clark Hunt can make another mistake at GM and after that GM hires two shitty coaches and gets fired, we can start all over again. And I'm a glass-is-half-full kind of guy.

aturnis 12-13-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8198704)
I am just saying lets not use the Chiefs passing game as proof of anything. I am all for letting Stanzi start the last 3 games. I was all for him starting the last 8. I don't know about Ferentz. Truth be told, I can live with anything that means no Cassel. That is the first goal. Nothing good can happen until he is gone.

I know...that's why I said it. The Hawkeyes have plenty of excitement is all I was saying. All the excitement of a pro football team anyway. Some people get so used to their spread monkey bullshit they forget about real football. What about the guys from Oregon and Boise St., their offenses are way exciting. Should we go get em?

Frankie 12-13-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8198613)
Dude runs an O that makes Herm look like Martz.

According to my son, this was more due to the OC than to Ferentz. However he added the caveat that Ferentz was totally loyal to the OC whom everyone wanted fired. Shades of Dick Vermeil.

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8198698)
In their senior years, with Stanzi playing in a pro-style offense, Stanzi threw for 3,004yds. Just 182yds. less than what Gabbert threw for in 130 less attempts. Threw 9 more TD's too.

That's very good. Isn't the spread offense supposed to be more akin to gaudy passing numbers?

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8198704)
I am just saying lets not use the Chiefs passing game as proof of anything. I am all for letting Stanzi start the last 3 games. I was all for him starting the last 8.

At least seeing some meaningful action for the tape.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 8198729)
Ferentz is also a great judge of character, as only 11 of Iowa's football players got suspended in a massive drug scandal last year. Couple that with Pioli's talent-judging abilities (ie, Matt Cassel's $60+ million contract), and they both should be long gone by the 2015 season.

Then Clark Hunt can make another mistake at GM and after that GM hires two shitty coaches and gets fired, we can start all over again. And I'm a glass-is-half-full kind of guy.

I'm glad you brought that to my attention. I will assign Ferentz to just coaching and Pioli to creating and maintaining the right 53.

aturnis 12-13-2011 12:55 AM

Dude, DJK was squeeky clean and it came as a shock to EVERYONE that he had a drug house.

Chris Meck 12-13-2011 12:57 AM

I don't think I even want to watch the rest of the games unless they're going to play the kid.

aturnis 12-13-2011 12:59 AM

Also, one of my arguments up to this point of why Ferentz won't leave Iowa was as he'd stated, he wasn't leaving until all of his children had graduated.

I guess that I assumed he meant college, and having a 17yr. old, that that'd be awhile.

Just learned today, that the 17yr. old isn't a Jr. as I'd expected, but a senior in H.S. It's possible that Kirk was only talking about his kids graduating H.S. and he could be free and clear to move on.

Still, you'd think he would want to coach his son James in his final year at Iowa, and if his youngest has the option to play football, you'd think he'd want the same experience with him that he'd had with his other sons...

Chris Meck 12-13-2011 01:07 AM

all good points, but...

coaches are competitors too...he's got to know that it's incredibly unlikely he will ever win a national championship at Iowa. They're just never going to be able to out recruit the USC's and what have you.

If he were to go to the NFL, he could conceivably win a championship. AND Pioli's a friend, AND the team is in a lot better shape than it looks, AND it's still in the neighborhood geographically speaking.

I don't know if it'll happen or not, or if I even want it to, but I think if it were offered he'd probably take it.

-King- 12-13-2011 01:09 AM

He reminds me of a white Bill Belichick.


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