Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8224814)

Chiefs Planet is a poor representation of the actual fan base. The genious loosers over at Arrowhead Pride and other sites caption your average Chiefs fan much better

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8224822)

Yep, that looks like about 1%.:)

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 8215886)

Orton can stay in KC as long as he wants, IMO. Remember this... he is playing with a ****ed up throwing hand!

I was very impressed with him. Great game. It is only ONE game, but I was NEVER this encouraged with Casshole.

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 8216003)

If Orton plays out the rest of the season like he did today, he deserves the starting job hands down with no concern for "competition". I wasn't an Orton supporter but after not having a real quarterback in this offense since Trent Green, the potential of this team looks completely different with him in there. I believe a win like this could absolutely bond players with coach, with quarterback. If he continues like he did today, we should not draft a QB first round, he shouldn't have to look over his shoulder. The job should be completely his. If a highly ranked qb falls to a lower round, that's different.

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8217063)

Not me. I said he was as good as Carson Palmer and WAY cheaper. I'll go ahead and say we no longer need to think QB in the draft.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8224829)

Just giving you shit Hamas. There are always going to be idiots on this site. Hell, we have probably all been said idiot at some point.

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8224833)

Well duh, hindsight is always 50/50 here

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8224840)

Every single QB in the history of the NFL turns to goo under pressure. The idea is to keep pressure off of him and provide a quick outlet for when the defense is bringing the heat. That's why talent evaluaters talk about film-work and reading a defense as keys to a QB's success.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8224829)

Just giving you shit Hamas. There are always going to be idiots on this site. Hell, we have probably all been said idiot at some point.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8224840)

Every single QB in the history of the NFL turns to goo under pressure. The idea is to keep pressure off of him and provide a quick outlet for when the defense is bringing the heat. That's why talent evaluaters talk about film-work and reading a defense as keys to a QB's success.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8224840)

Every single QB in the history of the NFL turns to goo under pressure.

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8224941)

Wrong.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8224846)

Whoa, you just made a post that didn't mention 50 years of NFL history.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8224944)

I didn't share an opinion, Clay. It's a fact that quarterbacks do not perform at their peak while being pressured. You're the only person who wants to argue to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8224946)

Some perform better than others under pressure. Also a fact.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8224947)

No question. You could have said it that way instead of saying "WRONG" and we wouldn't even be having this exchange.


I agree. He folds under pressure. That's not surprising. I don't think he has any kind of superior decision making or escapability either. To his credit, he uses his blocks well and slides around the pocket with ease. He also makes quick reads and gets rid of the ball efficiently. Nobody is going to mistake Orton for a superstar QB but he's better than anybody the Chiefs have had in years. I would even go so far as to say he's better than Trent Green.

In a nutshell, I won't cry myself to sleep if the Chiefs keep Orton for 2012. He's not nearly as good as he looked vs. the Packers but he's nowhere near as bad as he's looked at times wearing a bear or horse on his helmet.