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HemiEd 04-30-2012 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583315)
I didn't contradict myself.

I said we weren't as good as our record indicated last year.

Then I said if there were no injuries at all in the NFL, we were still probably going to win 7 or 8 games. Chiefs would get better, but so would other teams.
So, you are saying, counting the Chief's injuries, they were not as good as their record, but if they had no injuries they would have won 7 or 8. But if other teams had no injuries, the Chiefs still would have won 7 or 8?

Frazod 04-30-2012 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8583268)
The division has improved, but so has this team and we're playing the weakest schedule in the AFC West again this season. We were better than 10 teams just last year sans Charles, Moeaki, Berry and Cassel (at the end of the year)...playing a 1st Place schedule. Somehow with a ton more talent and a significantly weaker schedule we're one of the five-worst teams in the league?

**** outta here.
I didn't say I agreed with the author. I just believe our 2010 team was overrated. In many ways, I think the 2011 team was better - certainly at the end it was (with a real quarterback that we DIDN'T ****ING KEEP :mad: ). Green Bay would have laid a Little Bighorn beating on the 2010 team at any point in the season.

htismaqe 04-30-2012 03:03 PM
Dude, you've got some seriously circular logic going on here.

There's just no objective way to say "yeah, we had injuries but so did other teams, so we were WORSE than a 7-9 team".

Sure, we probably won the Bears game because of Caleb Hanie. One could argue that we LOST the Steelers game (to a nearly full strength Steelers team) because of Tyler Palko.

We went 7-9 and that's that.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8583325)
but if they had no injuries they would have won 7 or 8.
Nah. We would have easily made the playoffs last year without injuries.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8583337)
Dude, you've got some seriously circular logic going on here.

There's just no objective way to say "yeah, we had injuries but so did other teams, so we were WORSE than a 7-9 team".
What I'm trying to say here is that you can't apply last year's record to this coming season.

We are unlikely to face five horrible quarterbacks.

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583344)
What I'm trying to say here is that you can't apply last year's record to this coming season.

We are unlikely to face five horrible quarterbacks.
You're still stuck on 5 terrible QBs.

What about the the best QB in the NFL that we beat?

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583351)
You're still stuck on 5 terrible QBs.

What about the the best QB in the NFL that we beat?
We deserve credit for that.

But remember, the quarterback who took part in that is gone and we're stuck with a lesser QB.

HemiEd 04-30-2012 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583338)
Nah. We would have easily made the playoffs last year without injuries.
But wait, now I am lost again. Or do you mean only if the Chiefs didn't have any injuries, and the rest of the NFL did?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Satanic Goat
It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583315)
I didn't contradict myself.

I said we weren't as good as our record indicated last year.

Then I said if there were no injuries at all in the NFL, we were still probably going to win 7 or 8 games. Chiefs would get better, but so would other teams.
Good Christ this is a stupid post.

htismaqe 04-30-2012 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583353)
We deserve credit for that.

But remember, the quarterback who took part in that is gone and we're stuck with a lesser QB.
Who won 10 games in 2010, with fewer weapons...

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583353)
We deserve credit for that.

But remember, the quarterback who took part in that is gone and we're stuck with a lesser QB.
I don't care what Orton did in that game.
I care that our D manhandled that offense. 14 points.

DaWolf 04-30-2012 03:15 PM
I like Silver, but he's obviously not a fan of Pioli's based on his post-Haley firing articles (he likes Haley and texts the guy often). So not surprising that he'd be down on the Chiefs.

Whatever. This team has a lot to prove, so it doesn't bother me...

suzzer99 04-30-2012 03:15 PM
Mike Mayock said (what we all know) that the Chiefs are a very solid football team with very few holes. He and Gruden were surprised Peyton Manning never even considered coming here. It's refreshing to hear our team analyzed by people who know more than 4 or 5 of our player's names.

Mayock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Silver

HemiEd 04-30-2012 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583370)
I don't care what Orton did in that game.
I care that our D manhandled that offense. 14 points.
Bingo!

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 03:16 PM
Clay has gone full reerun


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