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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-29-2013 12:24 AM

The Chiefs aren't taking a QB next year unless they are drafting top 5. If they draft at 10-16 and a QB falls the fans will want the Chiefs to pass on him because they don't have a second and he won't be ready to plug and play. If they draft in the latter half they'll say that Smith greatly improved the team and deserves to be the guy going forward.

It will be the same song and dance it always was.

cdcox 04-29-2013 12:32 AM

In big picture context, the way the New Regime (NR) has handled the LT position has been a cluster****. My preferences:

1) sign BA to a long term contract before the draft and use 1.1 for a higher priority need
2) Draft Fisher 1.1 and sign BA to play LG or RT
3) Trade BA for a 2013 2nd round pick
4) Trade BA for a 2014 2nd round pick
5) Keep BA for 2013 and ???. We're in no man's land at this point.

Based on where we're at now, assuming BA isn't jumping up and down about changing positions, trading him for a 2014 2nd is the best cut-your-losses proposition. Black mark on the NR.

cdcox 04-29-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9643096)
Can't we play him for this season and then franchise him again and then trade him or some shit?

Trade value in 2014 will be off the charts. In not the right direction.

BlackHelicopters 04-29-2013 05:26 AM

Hard to believe the " new Chiefs" screwed this up just like the "old Chiefs".

Dave Lane 04-29-2013 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9642840)
they obviously don't need him

and they aren't going to offer more than they did this year, if they offer anything at all which i doubt

and we aren't trading 5 picks for Bridgewater

otherwise, solid post

And the lack of 2 2nds to move up with.

MahiMike 04-29-2013 07:16 AM

Let him play LT this year and THEN take a 2nd round pick. Too little, too late Miami.

Chief Roundup 04-29-2013 07:28 AM

If we trade Albert now we should get a 1st in next years draft. Otherwise we should play him for the year and trade him for a 2cd after the season.

Anyong Bluth 04-29-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642717)
He's not going to want to extend this year though.

It happens plenty he's not an unrestricted free agent, so the agents have a good idea of salary ranges esp. now that they don't have to worry about top draft picks going really high at the same position that would throw off the relative highest paid vets pay rankings. Plus, often times the teams will sweeten the pot for incentives and guaranteed money because they can more easily work the contract to favor their cap situation.

Chiefs would be smart to look at getting a dialogue with his agent going right about mid season so they can hopefully hammer things out in the final weeks before the season ends or just right after it.

Anyong Bluth 04-29-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9642890)
Jon Martin would be the LT. He filled in for a few games at the end of last season and did okay.

I'd view it as no different than the Chiefs rolling with Stephenson for a year to see how it goes. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't.

Based upon their continued interest and that Ireland's head will roll if they don't have a pretty good season, I'm inclined to say he's not as nonchalant as that, and I doubt nor is there anything that points to the chiefs cool with playing Stephenson and just "seeing how it works."

HMc 04-29-2013 07:35 AM

Why do people think Albert's trade value is going to rise rather than fall?

If I understand things, the Chiefs couldn't get a 2nd for him this year. Why is he suddenly going to command a 2nd in 12 months time? If you want a 2014 2, you're gonna have to do it now. Next year you'll only get a 2014 3, I reckon.

-King- 04-29-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 9643258)
It happens plenty he's not an unrestricted free agent, so the agents have a good idea of salary ranges esp. now that they don't have to worry about top draft picks going really high at the same position that would throw off the relative highest paid vets pay rankings. Plus, often times the teams will sweeten the pot for incentives and guaranteed money because they can more easily work the contract to favor their cap situation.

Chiefs would be smart to look at getting a dialogue with his agent going right about mid season so they can hopefully hammer things out in the final weeks before the season ends or just right after it.

Justin Houston literally has NO leverage in a contract negotiation right now. A player doesn't want to be extended until his 4th year in the league.
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-King- 04-29-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 9643270)
Why do people think Albert's trade value is going to rise rather than fall?

If I understand things, the Chiefs couldn't get a 2nd for him this year. Why is he suddenly going to command a 2nd in 12 months time? If you want a 2014 2, you're gonna have to do it now. Next year you'll only get a 2014 3, I reckon.

Getting a 2nd now is basically like getting a 3rd after the season.

Would you rather have Branden Albert + a 3rd next year. Or just a 2nd round pick next year. I pick the former.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04-29-2013 07:47 AM

The only trade I'd be willing to make is to the Raiders for their 1st next year. Albert was a 1st round pick and has played like a 1st round pick. Why should we take a 2nd for him. Dumb !

ILChief 04-29-2013 07:48 AM

Trade him

HMc 04-29-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9643286)
Getting a 2nd now is basically like getting a 3rd after the season.

Would you rather have Branden Albert + a 3rd next year. Or just a 2nd round pick next year. I pick the former.
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So he can protect smith during the 2013 superbowl run?

I'd rather the 2nd.


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