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Ming the Merciless 07-19-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9822194)
Wait, so are we positive about the Smith acquisition? Then, is it OK to have expectations for him and the team?

no its not

even tho matt cassel was the only reason we failed,

and ALex smith is awesome

we still wont win because of some excuse that hasn't been thought of yet

DeezNutz 07-19-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9822199)
Sadly, people must think 3,000/18 is a great year, based on all the knob slobbering he's gotten this offseason.

In fairness, 200 YPG is nothing to sneeze at.

29-year-old QB coming off a benching. Recipe for success.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-19-2013 07:15 PM

I'm not convienced the team can just so easily forget all the extensive DoughBall termanology.

DeezNutz 07-19-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9822204)
no its not

even tho matt cassel was the only reason we failed,

and ALex smith is awesome

we still wont win because of some excuse that hasn't been thought of yet

We traded two second-rounders for Alex Smith and an excuse to be named later, and it's the latter that really makes me feel good about the deal. It's our Wade Davies, one might say.

OnTheWarpath15 07-19-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9822207)
In fairness, 200 YPG is nothing to sneeze at.

29-year-old QB coming off a benching. Recipe for success.

200 is the new 400.

Ming the Merciless 07-19-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9822207)
In fairness, 200 YPG is nothing to sneeze at.

Yes, maybe if he keeps learning , he will finally break 200 ypg career average

DeezNutz 07-19-2013 07:18 PM

I know he's the statistical twin of Matt Cassel, but Alex Smith is far more similar to Matt Ryan.

Raiderhater 07-19-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9822199)
Sadly, people must think 3,000/18 is a great year, based on all the knob slobbering he's gotten this offseason.

Sadly, there people who think thst stupid coaches and a surgeon's fuck up equate to being injury prone.


There is plenty of stupid on both sides.

OnTheWarpath15 07-19-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9822219)
I know he's the statistical twin of Matt Cassel, but Alex Smith is far more similar to Matt Ryan.

Please, PLEASE point me in the direction of the dipshit who said that.

I have to see this for myself.

DeezNutz 07-19-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9822225)
Sadly, there people who think thst stupid coaches and a surgeon's fuck up equate to being injury prone.


There is plenty of stupid on both sides.

No matter the reasons, he's been in the league seven years and started all sixteen games in a season twice.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9822231)
Please, PLEASE point me in the direction of the dipshit who said that.

I have to see this for myself.

I said that their careers are similar in that both have only one a single playoff game.

Curse me if you'd like but I don't think Matt Ryan is elite. I just don't see it.

Eleazar 07-19-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9821852)
Why ignore the fact that Trent Green actually threw the ball down the field, and Alex Smith does not?

Wishful thinking to think he will ever be as good as Green.

Well then, Green's numbers were put up behind one of the best offensive lines of the last several decades in the NFL and one of the best rushing offenses at least of its own time. No handicapping there?

Green gets credit for all that offense's accomplishments, but Smith can't get credit for his high level of play the last two seasons because his team was so formidable on the ground as to make those numbers meaningless?

And Smith similarly can't get credit for his team being two special teams gaffes away from the Super Bowl, because he had so much talent around him?


Green was not any more capable of a downfield passer than Smith is. They're cut from the same cloth.

Raiderhater 07-19-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9822236)
No matter the reasons, he's been in the league seven years and started all sixteen games in a season twice.

I don't get how it doesn't matter. If you are analyzing and judging him, how do you hold events against him that he had nothing to with?

Smith is no Tom Brady. But treating him like trash just because he does not reach that benchmark that almost nobody reaches is asanine.

DeezNutz 07-19-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9822276)
I don't get how it doesn't matter. If you are analyzing and judging him, how do you hold events against him that he had nothing to with?

Smith is no Tom Brady. But treating him like trash just because he does not reach that benchmark that almost nobody reaches is asanine.

I'm not asking for a top-5 QB. Love to have it, but that's unfair.

But there's simply no looking at Alex Smith's career numbers and coming to any other conclusion than he's mediocre. Now, we're asking him to "develop" at 29-years-old, when he should be in his absolute prime.

We know what he is, an average QB who is not good enough to win a SB with. However, if we'd paid his true value to use him as a stop gap, meanwhile continuing to turn over stones for a real franchise QB, I would have applauded the move.

RippedmyFlesh 07-19-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9822238)
I said that their careers are similar in that both have only one a single playoff game.

Curse me if you'd like but I don't think Matt Ryan is elite. I just don't see it.

I agree Ryan isn't Rodgers/Brady/Brees elite but I think a team could win a sb with him without it being a Dilfer scenario. I would love to have him on the chiefs.


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