Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10578580)

So you hope.

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10578623)

We're not overrating Svhwartz, based on his play in KC, he showed he can start and play well. He had nagging injuries in the past and politics, which limited his playing time. However, when he played, he played well. He played himself into a starters role last season. Ill take that type of player any day.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10577710)

And you are doing what you always do, which is to undersell how exaggerated your side of the debate has been.

Give me a ****ing break. If one side believes you shouldn't burn high draft picks on linemen (and I'm one of them), then that means you don't think the position is important. If one side believes linemen aren't playmakers or difference makers (and I'm one of them), then that means you don't think the position is important.

If you truly believe in what you're saying, then you should have no hesitation to give a guy like Rishaw Jackson, Eric Kush, or Rokevius Watkins a shot at starting at Guard. Instead, we're going to hear people bitch about not paying $5M for a Guard or spending $9M for a Left Tackle.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10579733)

One side gets ****ing tired of true fan and media dildo telling us that we need to draft a lineman in the first round every year.

I personally think interior lineman are undervalued, but I also believe that you can find those guys in the mid rounds far more consistently than playmakers on the outside of an offense or the back end of a defense.

And I personally have not complained about giving Rishaw Johnson an opportunity.

Would I have liked to re-sign Shwartz?
Sure.

But I am not overly concerned with it.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10578409)

Reid loved Danny Watkins for the same reasons.

And Martin gives us a guard replacement. If Fisher or Stephenson go down, do you REALLY want him stepping in at tackle? I mean, Jeff Allen would have been in the exact same position to step in at tackle if need be, only one year removed from being the starting LT all three years in college. But we never even considered him as a swing option for guard or tackle.

I'm fine with versatility from our backups. That's just fine and dandy. But I don't want our starting guard shifting over in the middle of a game and bringing up the backup to fill his spot. That makes ZERO sense. You've basically got TWO backups filling in instead of one in that case. Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

**** Zach Martin. **** Su'a Filo. **** Chance Warmack. **** David DeCastro. **** Mike Iupati.

**** drafting guards in the first round. Ever.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10578409)

Reid loved Danny Watkins for the same reasons.

And Martin gives us a guard replacement. If Fisher or Stephenson go down, do you REALLY want him stepping in at tackle? I mean, Jeff Allen would have been in the exact same position to step in at tackle if need be, only one year removed from being the starting LT all three years in college. But we never even considered him as a swing option for guard or tackle.

I'm fine with versatility from our backups. That's just fine and dandy. But I don't want our starting guard shifting over in the middle of a game and bringing up the backup to fill his spot. That makes ZERO sense. You've basically got TWO backups filling in instead of one in that case. Dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

**** Zach Martin. **** Su'a Filo. **** Chance Warmack. **** David DeCastro. **** Mike Iupati.

**** drafting guards in the first round. Ever.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10578733)

Geoff Schwartz is a turd. Rishaw Johnson is a turd. Xavier Sua-filet of fish is a turd.

All guards are turds. That's why they're so replaceable.

**** em.

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10580083)

Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10580083)

Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10580083)

Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10580083)

Will Shields just sent me a pm. He said for you to blow him.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10580089)

Please don't compare HOF players to anyone currently on our roster...

Originally Posted by Dick Bull (Post 10580100)

I wasn't. I was addressing the all guards are shit statement. Just like I'm addressing your notion that we don't have at least 1 hall of fame caliber player on our roster.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10580097)

Will Shields played in how many AFC title games?