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OldSchool 06-13-2014 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10689170)
No need to try again. Matthieu was, by far, the best rookie CB in the NFL last season.
Except he was a FS.:thumb:

Chiefnj2 06-13-2014 02:24 PM
Why do people insist Flowers isn't a good fit for Sutton's scheme?

Flowers was the only CB on the Chiefs who could play outside, in the slot or shadow an opposing WR. His departure leaves a big hole in the secondary.

Just Passin' By 06-13-2014 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10689172)
Matthieu is a safety.
Matthieu played both safety and corner. While I'm not a PFF guy, to say the least, if you are, you might wish to note that PFF had Matthieu rated at their #2 CB as of 12/19 last season.

OldSchool 06-13-2014 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10689181)
Why do people insist Flowers isn't a good fit for Sutton's scheme?

Flowers was the only CB on the Chiefs who could play outside, in the slot or shadow an opposing WR. His departure leaves a big hole in the secondary.
He was so good at shadowing Dez Bryant . . . oh wait.

Just Passin' By 06-13-2014 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10689180)
Except he was a FS.:thumb:
Except he played both safety and corner. JFC, watch the games. Listen to his coach. Do some ****ing thing.

KCDC 06-13-2014 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10688932)
You guys can jump off a bridge if you want, but losing Flowers really doesn't change much for the upcoming season.
Only true if you had low expectations for the season.

petegz28 06-13-2014 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10689156)
Why didnt they try to trade him then?
WTF is going to trade for an injury-plagued, slot CB who has almost $15 mil coming in the next 2 years?

ndws 06-13-2014 02:28 PM
He killed Welker, and he matched up well on Hilton until he got hurt.

Its more business than a game anymore. What do you do? Hate to see him go, but it was kind of inevitable with his contract. Hope Cooper and Gaines are ready to strap it up. No telling what exactly happens with Sean Smith.

Guess we could always see what Stanford Routt is up to right now? j/k

Discuss Thrower 06-13-2014 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10688942)
Yep. We were going to suck either way.
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10689181)
Why do people insist Flowers isn't a good fit for Sutton's scheme?

Flowers was the only CB on the Chiefs who could play outside, in the slot or shadow an opposing WR. His departure leaves a big hole in the secondary.
Pass rush. Pass rush. Pass rush. Unless you've got absolutely ELITE corners, I'll take my chances with a consistent pass rush from the front six or seven and competent tackling.

Especially with how ****ing much a joke the rules are these days. "Oh, #28, you went stride for stride with a WR and you both kind of slapped each other along the way? PASS INTERFERENCE, on the defense!"

Get after the QB, and be able to tackle as soon as the opposing receiver makes the catch to prevent YAC.

Dave Lane 06-13-2014 02:29 PM
Cooper played so well they benched him.

petegz28 06-13-2014 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10689181)
Why do people insist Flowers isn't a good fit for Sutton's scheme?

Flowers was the only CB on the Chiefs who could play outside, in the slot or shadow an opposing WR. His departure leaves a big hole in the secondary.
If they are moving to bump coverage then Flowers don't fit.

Pablo 06-13-2014 02:29 PM
Don't worry guys, our pass rush is going to be so ****ing fierce that whoever is back there will only need to cover for about 1.5 seconds.

16-0.

Discuss Thrower 06-13-2014 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10689195)
Cooper played so well they benched him.
Rookie.

"Durr Eric Berry got burned, he ****in' sucks." /Chiefs fans circa 2010.

Dave Lane 06-13-2014 02:31 PM
In the playoff game the minute Flowers when out injured the Indy comeback began.

notorious 06-13-2014 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10689112)
Wasting that entire ****ing '08 draft class. I ****ing hate this organization. Albert gone, Dorsey gone, Flowers gone, Carr gone. Charles only one left.
That's the only reason I am pissed. Pioli wasted a boatload of talent.


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