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The Franchise 12-01-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11160220)
with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?

Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.

ToxSocks 12-01-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11160234)
I hate you.

A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?

It's probably by design. There are in fact systems that do not allow the QB to audible out.

Rivers wasn't allowed to audible out of a play when Norv was his HC.

IIRC, Trent Green wasn't allowed to audible out during the DV era.

ToxSocks 12-01-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160240)
Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.

Eh.....you sure 'bout that.....I think a pretty strong argument can be made that our O-line is most certainly a bottom feeder.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 02:03 PM

It takes a wise and patient QB to not find the guy running completely free when the defense sends extras on the pass rush.

Hell, good QB's KNOW who the free man is going to be before the ball is snapped. They don't have to "find" them.

Good QB's WANT to be blitzed.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160240)
Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.

LOL... Which teams have it worse? Name them all.

Mav 12-01-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11160234)
I hate you.

A wise and patient game? What's wise about never audibling into a hot route to relieve the all-out blitzes that we see all the time?

You know what. That's a fair point. I never see alex audible.

He always audibled under harbs. Does Andy not let him?

KC native 12-01-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11160241)
It's probably by design. There are in fact systems that do not allow the QB to audible out.

Rivers wasn't allowed to audible out of a play when Norv was his HC.

IIRC, Trent Green wasn't allowed to audible out during the DV era.

So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!

The Franchise 12-01-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11160243)
Eh.....you sure 'bout that.....I think a pretty strong argument can be made that our O-line is most certainly a bottom feeder.

I think they're in the 20-25 range.

Sandy Vagina 12-01-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11160251)
So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!

only counting 4.6 mil against the KC cap this season. :D

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160252)
I think they're in the 20-25 range.

According to Football Outsiders, they are ranked 10th in adjusted line yards rushing, and 22nd in adjusted sack rate.

The Franchise 12-01-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11160247)
LOL... Which teams have it worse? Name them all.

OL:

Jaguars
Redskins
Panthers
Jets
Vikings
Titans

Chiefnj2 12-01-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11160220)
with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?

Hoyer has done more with his bottom 5 group of WR's than Smith has. Before, Gordon returned.

Hawkins 52 receptions for 718 yards and 2 TDs. (longest 65 yards)
Austin 47 receptions for 568 yards and 2 TDs.
Gabriel 30 receptions for 540 yards and 1 TD. (longest 70 yards).

A bad QB able to find some poor WRs.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160260)
OL:

Jaguars
Redskins
Panthers
Jets
Vikings
Titans

The remaining 4 according to FO:

Tampa
Seattle
STL
SF

BigCatDaddy 12-01-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11160220)
with these weapons? He'd just be rapidly tumbling down the Geno Smith hill.

No, Alex is playing a wise and patient game. He will work with what he has.. in his own way.. until the decision-makers bring in real talent to throw to and real talent to pass block.

Answer something... where would you and others categorize our OL corps? Bottom 5, right? How about the collection of WRs? bottom 5, right?

So what in the hell do you really expect a good but not great QB to do with that? and which other QBs could do more with this?

The backs and tightends are pretty good weapons. You arent going to be top shelf everywhere.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11160262)
Hoyer has done more with his bottom 5 group of WR's than Smith has. Before, Gordon returned.

Hawkins 52 receptions for 718 yards and 2 TDs. (longest 65 yards)
Austin 47 receptions for 568 yards and 2 TDs.
Gabriel 30 receptions for 540 yards and 1 TD. (longest 70 yards).

A bad QB able to find some poor WRs.

Good post.


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