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Gadzooks 08-24-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12384665)
Yes. If my team was one of the worst in the league and they were handicapping improvement because of money they already committed to spending? **** yes. If Bosa wasn't worth 3rd overall money, don't draft him. If no one was worth it, trade the pick. What he's worth was already determined when they selected him.

No one wanted the 3rd pick in this draft. Meh, **** Bosa 'till he gets his head out of his ass.

ToxSocks 08-24-2016 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384546)
Chargers exec John Spanos: Bosa's stance 'absolutely asinine'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...lutely-asinine

"He would have gotten more cash in this calendar year than anyone except Carson Wentz."

Tell me again how the Chargers are offering Joey a bad, bad contract?

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384635)
Would you form a lynch mob for the Chiefs to sign Tyson Jackson or Eric Fisher?
It was a similar shitty draft. Bosa's entitled to be misled by his agent.

You can keep telling yourself that, but I see some legitimate studs coming out of this draft.

Time will tell, but I think the Chargers are going to look at 6-8 people drafted after him and think to themselves "man, what the **** were we doing?"

And frankly, Bosa had a chance to be a better version of Wistrom had he gone to a 4-3 team. He was going to be a damn good player in his own right.

jjchieffan 08-24-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384635)
Would you form a lynch mob for the Chiefs to sign Tyson Jackson or Eric Fisher?
It was a similar shitty draft. Bosa's entitled to be misled by his agent.

2 teams trading up to take quarterbacks in this draft and you want to compare it to the draft that gave us Eric Fisher??? Please!! There was nobody willing to trade up with KC because there was NOBODY worth the first overall pick. This draft doesn't come close to that. So after weeks of knowing who the first 2 picks were, and therefore able to pretty much have their pick debated and decided on way ahead of time, this inept organization picks an overrated player who doesn't fit their scheme and you want to whine about a shitty draft?? They could have and should have picked ANYONE else that went in the top ten.

DaneMcCloud 08-24-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384668)
We agree. The fact that you can name 6 other players that could've been picked at 3 shows how weak this draft was.

Understandably, no one wanted to trade up to 3.

Bosa's Mommy, Daddy and Agent aren't helping him at this point.

Whoa, hold on there, cowboy.

The fact that no one traded up to take a player is not an indication that the draft was "weak". Again, that's way too early to be determined.

I'm not going to re-hash the first round of the 2016 draft but after the Chargers picked Bosa, the next several picks fell exactly to teams with specific needs that were filled.

Elliott to the Cowboys, Ramsey to the Jags, Stanley to the Ravens, Buckner to SF (Chip Kelly/Oregon connection), Leonard Floyd to the Bears and so on.

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384668)
We agree. The fact that you can name 6 other players that could've been picked at 3 shows how weak this draft was.

Understandably, no one wanted to trade up to 3.

Bosa's Mommy, Daddy and Agent aren't helping him at this point.

How many drafts have a no-brainer at 3?

Very very rarely. If there's a consensus, it rarely extends beyond the first couple of picks. There are usually 3-5 similarly tiered players in that range and then it's just a question of fit.

Bosa was pretty much the worst fit imaginable for SD. But that doesn't mean there weren't damn good players available to them there.

jjchieffan 08-24-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384668)
We agree. The fact that you can name 6 other players that could've been picked at 3 shows how weak this draft was.

Understandably, no one wanted to trade up to 3.

Bosa's Mommy, Daddy and Agent aren't helping him at this point.

That doesn't show how weak the draft was. It is just a list of players that were better choices than Boss for the Chargers.

Gadzooks 08-24-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12384683)
You can keep telling yourself that, but I see some legitimate studs coming out of this draft.

Time will tell, but I think the Chargers are going to look at 6-8 people drafted after him and think to themselves "man, what the **** were we doing?"

And frankly, Bosa had a chance to be a better version of Wistrom had he gone to a 4-3 team. He was going to be a damn good player in his own right.

Please name some of the other 'legitimate studs' that would have been worthy of the 3rd overall pick. There are arguments against all of them.
It was a weak draft class plain and simple.

DaneMcCloud 08-24-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384696)
Please name some of the other 'legitimate studs' that would have been worthy of the 3rd overall pick. There are arguments against all of them.
It was a weak draft class plain and simple.

:facepalm:

The Franchise 08-24-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12384696)
Please name some of the other 'legitimate studs' that would have been worthy of the 3rd overall pick. There are arguments against all of them.
It was a weak draft class plain and simple.

Jalen Ramsey
Ezekiel Elliot
Ronnie Stanley
DeForest Buckner
Laremy Tunsil
Robert Nkemdiche

Gadzooks 08-24-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12384692)
That doesn't show how weak the draft was. It is just a list of players that were better choices than Boss for the Chargers.

Alright here we go... the rest of the top 10 of the 2016 draft:
Ezekiel Elliott - SD drafted Melvin Gordon in 2015
Jalen Ramsey - Not a particular need. Ramsey had 1 INT at FSU. Seconary is OK.
Ronnie Stanley - Would have been a back-up to King Dunlap and was the 2nd ranked OT
DeForest Buckner - Bosa or Buckner seemed like the choice and Bosa won
Jack Conklin - 3rd ranked OT
Leonard Floyd - OLB was not a strong need and who is this guy?
Eli Apple - See Ramsey.

There were no good choices for the Chargers and no way to trade out of 3. The proof is right here. It was a weak draft class.

Chief Roundup 08-24-2016 05:40 PM

Someone is forgetting the history that San Diego has with signing their first round picks.
San Diego is the real problem here not Bosa.

Gadzooks 08-24-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12384721)
Laremy Tunsil
Robert Nkemdiche

Too risky to be drafted at 3.

Easy 6 08-24-2016 05:50 PM

Not even talking smack, but when Rivers hangs' em up... :reaper:

That club has no direction, no identity, no ruling philosophy, they wont even have their own stadium soon

DaneMcCloud 08-24-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12384740)
Not even talking smack, but when Rivers hangs' em up... :reaper:

That club has no direction, no identity, no ruling philosophy, they wont even have their own stadium soon

If they don't get a stadium deal done, the NFL and the city will probably spend $800 million to renovate the Murph.

LA doesn't want the Chargers or Raiders.


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