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pugsnotdrugs19 12-08-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13269725)
This thread is amusing me, pretty typical though someone gets fired so obviously anything wrong with the team is his fault and he gets no credit for anything good.

Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.

Best22 12-08-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13269140)
Listening to Cleveland stations this morning & sone of them are saying Drew Lock is a better version of Mahomes(they call him Mahomez).

FYI: Dorsey's presser is at 10am today. I'd assume the NFLN will show & the Cleveland station is carrying it too.

If Mizzou had Mahomes in 2016, we go atleast 6-6

Mecca 12-08-2017 12:42 PM

I'm pretty sure the terrible coaching has way more to do with the 1-6 record than a guy who hasn't been here for 6 months.

The team isn't even untalented. Also someone argue to me that anyone is better at picking up dudes that get cut and finding talent there.

Mecca 12-08-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13269734)
Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.

It's mildly ironic that the year he's gone we resemble more of Reid's end of tenure in Philly than anything else.

PAChiefsGuy 12-08-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13269734)
Dorsey does get credit for the good things he did while here. The problem is, that list has grown shorter and shorter by the week this season. This was the 5th year of 'his roster', and it looks worse than it has at any point during the Reid/Dorsey tenure.

There is plenty of talent on this roster. Eric Berry is playing this team is a SB contender.. It's not Dorsey's fault he got hurt.. I know all NFL teams have injuries but he was one we could not afford. Just bad luck but Dorsey did great here. Kelce, Tyreek and Hunt are going to be this teams cornerstone for years to come.

We've had a lot of bad luck with injuries during Dorsey's tenure here.. It sucks but every year the talent is always there for us to make the playoffs which is why we did pretty much every year he was here. Reids a great coach but players play the game.

Rasputin 12-08-2017 12:44 PM

Hey John Dorsey thank you for drafting Patrick Mahomes II. Now can you do us one other solid? Trade for Alex Smith. That be great. He can be your mentor for the Quarterback your gonna draft with your first pick.

Rausch 12-08-2017 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13269688)
As evidenced by this loaded Chiefs roster

I'd throw the flag and disagree here.

Most of our team can run fast. Jump far. Change direction.

Can't tackle. And you can't argue this when KC is 3rd worst at broken tackles. Whiffed tackles. Some people call them missed tackles.

I'd call it being soft.

You can be fast. You can lift weights. You can blaze that schuttle time.

But they can't play. They're sloppy in technique, sloppy in tackling (retro: 2004 defense) and have no drive outside of their own ability to market.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-08-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13269742)
There is plenty of talent on this roster. Eric Berry is playing this team is a SB contender.. It's not Dorsey's fault he got hurt.. I know all NFL teams have injuries but he was one we could not afford. Just bad luck but Dorsey did great here. Kelce, Tyreek and Hunt are going to be this teams cornerstone for years to come.

Who drafted Eric Berry again?

Mecca 12-08-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13269745)
I'd throw the flag and disagree here.

Most of our team can run fast. Jump far. Change direction.

Can't tackle. And you can't argue this when KC is 3rd worst at broken tackles. Whiffed tackles. Some people call them missed tackles.

I'd call it being soft.

You can be fast. You can lift weights. You can blaze that schuttle time.

But they can't play. They're sloppy in technique, sloppy in tackling (retro: 2004 defense) and have no drive outside of their own ability to market.

Then don't hire a geriatric defensive coordinator that might help or get some coaches that you know can actually coach.

Also the league is full of dudes who don't tackle the lack of practices does this.

PAChiefsGuy 12-08-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13269747)
Who drafted Eric Berry again?

Every GM inherits some talent it's the NFL buddy.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-08-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13269753)
Every GM inherits some talent it's the NFL buddy.

I know, but my point is that for whatever reason, this roster was not prepared to take the hit of losing Berry whatsoever. In the past it was, but not this year. Personally I blame Sutton more than Dorsey, but either way it is an issue.

RunKC 12-08-2017 01:03 PM

Eric Fisher
Dee Ford
Marcus Peters

If you're giving Dorsey credit, then he has to take the fall for the absolute horrific value his first 3 1st rd picks have brought this team this season.

KCrockaholic 12-08-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13269769)
Eric Fisher
Dee Ford
Marcus Peters

If you're giving Dorsey credit, then he has to take the fall for the absolute horrific value his first 3 1st rd picks have brought this team this season.

You really can't hate on the Fisher pick. There was no other option. It was the worst class maybe in NFL history. He chose correctly between Fisher and Joeckel. Hopkins and Rhodes both went late 1st, but those would've been considered extreme reaches had they gone 1.1

Mecca 12-08-2017 01:08 PM

Yea Eric Fisher is the best top 10 pick from that year...sad but true, you can't draft what isn't there.

And everyone loved Marcus Peters until not that long ago so yea.

KCrockaholic 12-08-2017 01:11 PM

The Dee Ford pick was bad. No way to defend that one.


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