Thanks for doing all that to prove my point that we need to keep Chris Jones.

A terrible return? They got a guy at running back who is going to be a pro bowl caliber player for the next several years in Jacobs. We will see how they use their second first rounder this year at the 19th pick. That is draft picks ALONE. You never touched on how they are spending the $23.5 million a year in cap savings ON TOP of the draft picks. If you think the Bears got the better end of that deal you're crazy. Raiders are ascending. Bears are descending. Much in large part to that trade. Mack has been healthy and producing as well. What happens if he gets dinged up this year (which I fear with Jones)? The Bears completely unravel.

The fact that used one of those 1st round draft picks they got on a RB is so stupid. I'd be completely pissed if the Chiefs wasted a 1st round pick on a RB and then if it were a pick that we got for a HOF talent in his prime I'd be livid. You can find equally talented backs in the mid rounds.

The Bears aren't descending because of that trade. They are descending because they're idiots and traded up one spot to get a terrible ****ing QB. If they had even an average QB they'd be decent. I wouldn't consider one 7-9 season as ascending either, especially when you look at the team's the Raiders beat.

Broncos
Colts
Bears
Lions
Chargers
Bengals
Chargers

37-75

Not one of those teams had winning records. Hell they beat the Bears and the Bears still had a better record than the Raiders. The Bears even made it to the playoffs since that trade and went 12-4.

Also that trade is not the reason for the Bears being shitty. Its because they have shitty Turdbiscuit as their QB. The Bears would be damn good if the QB was even mediocre, because they have an elite defense. Why is that defense so elite now? Probably because they traded for Mack.

You added this ignorant shit after I already quoted you. It's football. People get injured. What happens if Mahomes gets his big deal and gets injured? He's been hurt before so why don't you fear that he will be injured again? People using this god damn Berry and Houston got injured, so now everyone we sign long term will get injured is ****ing reeruned. We just gave Clark a big deal and howd that turn out? God damn people are stupid.

Two firsts has to be the minimum to have a seat at the table on a trade for Jones. Forget this firsr and third bullshit. If Jones is everything his fanatics claim he is, two firsts is the start point for negotiations and really shouldnt be a question.

Otherwise, dude needs to swallow his pride, play on the tag, and get his extension next offseason. If the guy simply cannot grasp why we are paying Mahomes first, and is going to go all butt hurt and think his production is not recognized or appreciated, then he probably should just move on.

But there isnt a ****ing player in the world that would get a contract before Mahomes. So this butthurt and mixed emotions, i just dont have any tolerance for.

Hey Chris. The dude getting paid before you, He's the reason you have that ring on your finger. You might remember having a front row seat tgere on the sideline in your streetclothes for the 24-0 divisional game in the playoffs. You know, the one where he rattled off 7 straight TD drives, then a fg on the 8th.

Get over it.

Honestly it makes more sense for him to do this. Jones will make more money playing under the tag this year and signing long term after the new CBA is worked out...

Unless youre clairvoyant, we dont know how the Clark deal turned out. Hes played one season of the deal. If he destroys his knee in training camp is it still great? Pops an Achilles after? Some will say the trophy makes it worth every penny already.

That Mahomes point is just ****ing stupid bro.

We are ****ed if Mahomes goes down no matter how much hes paid. You don't send him to another team to avoid paying him. Hes the best player on the planet.

I wouldn't give 2 shits if the Chiefs had to face Jones twice a year. Imagining Mahomes on another team? **** football forever.

1.) I want to see what kind of money Jones is asking for and what our possible draft compensation is before I make a stand one way or the other. This thread is based off the assumption he is asking to be paid as one of the highest defenders in the league.

2.) Jones was on the sideline holding his dick in his hand during our most important game of the year with a fricken calf strain while we went down 24-0. Mahomes' leg could have literally been falling off before you could drag that dude off the field during a game of that importance. Please dont compare the two in that regards. It's a GD embarrassment! Shit the Eagles backup quarterback played the entire game with his hamstring literally falling off the bone! You think Brett Favre would have sat a playoff game with a calf strain? Ronnie Lott? Hell even Mitchell Schwartz? I'm sorry if I hesitate to hand this cat $100 million.

3.) Yes, injuries ARE a part of the game. If you devote too much of your cap to a handful of players and they deal with serious injuries you screw yourself and you screw Mahomes during his prime. An argument can be made to trade Jones for two high draft picks and an extra $20 million a year in cap. That is 4-5 high level staters for the price of Chris Jones. It's called "diversify" look it up if you don't understand.

4.) With Mahomes we will always be players for the top level free agents and often times they will be willing to take significant discounts for a shot at a SB ring (i.e. Chris Harris Jr.) I personally would like to see us have the opportunity to pursue these stud free agents at a discounted price every offseason rather than being handcuffed by the salary cap.

Your math sucks...Ferrell and Jacobs combined cost is around $43 million and that isn't factoring the additional pick this year. This is on top of having to use another #4 overall to replace Mack with an inferior player...that pick could have been used elsewhere or to move down.

How much is the #4 overall pick worth...that has to be factored in when calculating the cost.

Ferrell notched 4.5 sacks....

If KC keeps Jones, they are set at DL and Safety for a while. They can use the draft for CB and LB.

WTF are you talking about? They are both on rookie contracts. Jacobs' cap hit last year was just over $2,000,000. Ferrell was around $5.7 million as a top five pick.

Not that this affects Chris Jones but props to the Raiders for raping Chicago. They clearly won that trade.

And the free money they have for not spending on Mack could likely go to Byron Jones.

$43 million is their combined rookie contracts...#4 and #24.

Byron Jones is not good

That's up for debate...if Trubisky was playing at a competent level, they would be a perennial playoff team.

Are you suggesting that paying Bryon Jones was worth losing Mack and the 4th overall pick to replace him?

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