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MahiMike 04-21-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14919328)
Mort was on ESPN making a case for Fournette.

Trade Cost: approx a 4th pick
76 rec/ave 6.9 yards
1,100yrds rush, ave 4.3 yards
Base salary of 4.16m

After hearing these stats and trade cost, i might be willing to offer the jags a 5th round pick to see if they bite.

Now you're talking. This is basically a 1 year deal for a guy that caught 76 passes from Gardner Minshew. 6th best RB last year on a team that always has the box shut against them. How can you not take a flyer?

UChieffyBugger 04-21-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14920460)
He missed 5 games his senior season, and 12 games over his first three NFL seasons. That's a broke dick you stupid ****.

He's only has had one half a season where he was injured you idiot..otherwise he's been healthy

duncan_idaho 04-21-2020 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920412)
This

Is

BS

It.

Isn't.

Over the past 3 years, he has averaged fewer yards per carry and reception than Damien Williams - who was playing behind the craptastic Dolphins line in 2017 - while missing more games due to injury.

That isn't an elite back. Leonard Fournette was an elite prospect 3 years ago. He is not an elite back and isn't going to get a long-term second deal.

He compiled yardage last year but ranked 28th in YPA (behind such luminaries as Carlos Hyde, Jordan Howard, and Latavius Murray, and on par with studs like Jamal Williams and 34-year-old Adrian Peterson). Even in his "breakout" rookie campaign, Fournette was at 3.9 YPA - good again for 28th on the list.

In between those performances, he ranked 46th in YPA.

He.

Isn't.

Elite.

cmh6476 04-21-2020 10:48 AM

Not sure if anyone has said this, but no.

duncan_idaho 04-21-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920630)
He's only has had one half a season where he was injured you idiot..otherwise he's been healthy

So over the past 4 years, he has missed 1/2 the season for his team 2x. That's 50 percent of the time. That's a broke dick.

In addition to those injuries, he also has had a lot of nagging injuries. His rookie year, he got dinged and missed action 3 separate times.

In 2018, he injured the hamstring early, came back, and re-injured it to the point of missing the rest of the season.

He's a not-elite performer with injury problems.

duncan_idaho 04-21-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14920548)
Now you're talking. This is basically a 1 year deal for a guy that caught 76 passes from Gardner Minshew. 6th best RB last year on a team that always has the box shut against them. How can you not take a flyer?

Because in addition to being a non-eliete brokedick, he also is a terrible schematic fit for a team that wants to spend its time in shotgun formations.

He's a big power back, and doesn't possess the quick stop-start needed to thrive in the modern NFL.

I wouldn't send more than a 6th for him.

UChieffyBugger 04-21-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14920648)
It.

Isn't.

Over the past 3 years, he has averaged fewer yards per carry and reception than Damien Williams - who was playing behind the craptastic Dolphins line in 2017 - while missing more games due to injury.

That isn't an elite back. Leonard Fournette was an elite prospect 3 years ago. He is not an elite back and isn't going to get a long-term second deal.

He compiled yardage last year but ranked 28th in YPA (behind such luminaries as Carlos Hyde, Jordan Howard, and Latavius Murray, and on par with studs like Jamal Williams and 34-year-old Adrian Peterson). Even in his "breakout" rookie campaign, Fournette was at 3.9 YPA - good again for 28th on the list.

In between those performances, he ranked 46th in YPA.

He.

Isn't.

Elite.

You said he's "slow" and "not explosive"...THAT'S BS BUDDY!!!..also how many times has Williams carried an offense and faced nine man boxes? I'll wait :D

UChieffyBugger 04-21-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14920670)
So over the past 4 years, he has missed 1/2 the season for his team 2x. That's 50 percent of the time. That's a broke dick.

In addition to those injuries, he also has had a lot of nagging injuries. His rookie year, he got dinged and missed action 3 separate times.

In 2018, he injured the hamstring early, came back, and re-injured it to the point of missing the rest of the season.

He's a not-elite performer with injury problems.

Wtf is this clown talking about? He's only played THREE SEASONS and missed games in his SECOND SEASON only...please look at the stats you idiot.

Perineum Ripper 04-21-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920685)
Wtf is this clown talking about? He's only played THREE SEASONS and missed games in his SECOND SEASON only...please look at the stats you idiot.

He has played 3 seasons and missed games in every season.

13 games played his rookie season,

8 games played the next

15 games the next season



He has missed games every single season. Please look at the stats and quit suggesting the team to sign bad fits for this team with expensive options that aren’t worth it .

Chief Roundup 04-21-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920685)
Wtf is this clown talking about? He's only played THREE SEASONS and missed games in his SECOND SEASON only...please look at the stats you idiot.

http://www.nfl.com/player/leonardfou...73/careerstats

2017 played in 13 games
2018 played in 8 games
2019 played in 15 games

CasselGotPeedOn 04-21-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920630)
He's only has had one half a season where he was injured you idiot..otherwise he's been healthy

You are a ****ing moron. He's missed on average 1/4 of the season in his NFL career. That's healthy to you? Holy shit you're stupid

duncan_idaho 04-21-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14920685)
Wtf is this clown talking about? He's only played THREE SEASONS and missed games in his SECOND SEASON only...please look at the stats you idiot.


That includes his senior season of college. In which his brokedick tendencies were again on display and he missed 1/2 the season. And in which his team’s running game was better without him.

And he isn’t fast or explosive, by NFL standards. Numbers don’t back it up and neither does the tape.

Fournette peaked physically as a freshman and sophomore in college. He doesn’t have the vision, quickness, or shiftiness to be a stud at this level. His size/speed combo was elite at the college level. It isn’t at the NFL level.

UChieffyBugger 04-21-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14920705)
He has played 3 seasons and missed games in every season.

13 games played his rookie season,

8 games played the next

15 games the next season



He has missed games every single season. Please look at the stats and quit suggesting the team to sign bad fits for this team with expensive options that aren’t worth it .

He's not been perfect...but one if those games was a suspension and in his rookie season he played in all three playoff games.

Chief Roundup 04-21-2020 11:29 AM

Moving the goal posts. Can this turd be confined to the Romper Room.

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Sassy Squatch 04-21-2020 11:30 AM

LMAO


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