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RetiredSeniorChief 11-02-2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15928774)
It doesn't matter. The Chiefs score 34 points last night if they don't turn it over.

All this hand-wringing about running the ball up Creed's ass more is what we need is stupid.

We just need to stop doing stupid stuff on offense. Death by 1,000 cuts works fine if you don't do stupid stuff.

Yes, lets keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

Valiant 11-02-2021 09:04 AM

People have been clamoring for this gameplan for weeks. If ran earlier we would at least have two more wins.

It is how you shred the 2 deep. Then when they bring up the safeties. Play action with a double move and pump fakes.

The defense looked faster tonight as well.

MahomesMagic 11-02-2021 09:04 AM

I don't think what the league is doing on defense is ending this year.

I would like to see Reid hire one of the old West Coast boys to assist him with the offense.

Go get someone like Joe Philbin who is coaching the Dallas OL to get our offense back into old school WCO to counter.

wachashi 11-02-2021 09:07 AM

It's frustrating as hell to watch teams mug Kelce out of the game. They "jam" him at the line of scrimmage for 5, 6, 7, 8 yards and take away the timing of his routes. But if one of our DBs (Ward last night) lays a hand on a receiver beyond 5 yards, it's holding, illegal contact, or pass interference.

When is the last time Kelce drew a holding or illegal contact penalty? The league is treating Kelce differently and it's costing our offense.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 15928783)
Yes, lets keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

I can tell you running up the center's ass isn't the answer!!!!!

STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

notorious 11-02-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15928788)
I don't think what the league is doing on defense is ending this year.

I would like to see Reid hire one of the old West Coast boys to assist him with the offense.

Go get someone like Joe Philbin who is coaching the Dallas OL to get our offense back into old school WCO to counter.

Reid is smart enough, he will figure it out.

RetiredSeniorChief 11-02-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15928809)
I can tell you running up the center's ass isn't the answer!!!!!

STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The idea is to make the Defenses at least respect the run, defenses sell out to stop the pass because the Chiefs give defenses no reason to change. 9 straight games of this including a SB embarrassment but still no real adjustment by this coaching staff. They appear to be victims of their own hubris.

MahomesMagic 11-02-2021 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15928817)
Reid is smart enough, he will figure it out.

It's not that he can't. But Reid does lean on his offensive coaches and it would be nice to add a West Coast only guy to balance things out.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 15928827)
The idea is to make the Defenses at least respect the run

THEY WILL NEVER RESPECT BELOW AVERAGE RBS

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still no real adjustment by this coaching staff. .
THE CHIEFS, THE NFL'S TERRIBLE #4 OFFENSE, WOULD HAVE SCORED 34 POINTS IF NOT FOR TURNOVERS

THE COACHING STAFF HAS ADJUSTED

THE PLAYERS ARE NOT EXECUTING

ToxSocks 11-02-2021 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 15928512)
I'm confused by alot of the comments here. The "cure" for our offense is West Coast run game, dink and dunk? So the exact offense the Chiefs ran for the 30 years prior to Mahomes and never once worked?

NFL defenses are on to our shit. They know our traditional cover 2 beaters. They're sitting on our routes. They're flooding zones and bracketing Hill and Kelce in certain situations.

We've been running the same offense for years and we're the most analyzed team in the game. No team has gotten the attention the Chiefs have. They're probably the most studied team in the league right now.

And as someone said last night, the Chiefs have to have a complete identity makeover in order to counter it. They have to be something they're not. Mahomes is allergic to checkdowns. Tyreek wants to get deep. The Chiefs want to get deep and use their speed.

But they have to mutate into a running team. It doesn't have to be a power run game, but it has to be a lethal run game and yeah they have to exploit underneath routes.

In order to find consistent success against this, this leopard has to change its spots. That's tough to do.

It doesn't have to look like a dink-dunk, power run game. But they do have to exploit the underneath options with traps, counters, speed sweeps etc. Idk, but they're going to have to get real creative and find some shit they can routinely go to the well with.

ToxSocks 11-02-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15928809)
I can tell you running up the center's ass isn't the answer!!!!!

STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Chiefs will never be a team that just runs it up the center's ass all the time.

But they do have to find ways to exploit the underneath shit that defenses are giving them. There are creative ways to run the ball and use the short passing game.

dirk digler 11-02-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15928855)
The Chiefs will never be a team that just runs it up the center's ass all the time.

But they do have to find ways to exploit the underneath shit that defenses are giving them. There are creative ways to run the ball and use the short passing game.

yep. Reid used to be called the master of the screen game, what happened to that? Is Mahomes incapable of executing the screen game?

Hammock Parties 11-02-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15928855)
The Chiefs will never be a team that just runs it up the center's ass all the time.

But they do have to find ways to exploit the underneath shit that defenses are giving them. There are creative ways to run the ball and use the short passing game.

I think the Chiefs were very creative last night.

So creative, in fact, they would have scored 34 points.

Until the players failed to execute.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15928860)
Is Mahomes incapable of executing the screen game?

Yes. Patrick Mahomes cannot throw screen passes.

Listen to you idiots. LMAO

HC_Chief 11-02-2021 09:40 AM

Time to kiss & make up w/ Kareem Hunt. He served his time in CLE.


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