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TEX 02-01-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16123718)
I finally had the stomach to watch this video, and on the second down play with Hardman, I wonder if Pat was scared of a slight underthrow/behind Mecole that the DB would undercut for a pick 6.

The third down play is just ... it's astounding and sickening. He must've been terrified of a tipped ball in the end zone for an INT. The fact that they only needed a FG to tie must've been in his head, especially after he screwed up the drive at the end of the first half.

If that were fourth down, or they needed a TD to tie, or they were down 4 points, I have to believe he makes that throw -- and we win. But he played it safe.

Despite all the hiccups on that drive, I was very confident he was going to throw a TD pass on third down. And son of a bitch, it was there, twice, and he couldn't pull the trigger.

Which is why I still would have ran it every time and would have settled for the FG on 4th if we didn't get in. I might even have gone for it on 4th down to end it in regulation. The whole time burning clock... Just me though.

The Franchise 02-01-2022 09:04 AM

If you legitimately think that Mahomes threw that game….then stop watching.

And for a fan base that prayed for one playoff win to absolutely kill their 26 year old QB who just took them to two Super Bowls and win one…..you all are a bunch of whiny ****s.

Gary Cooper 02-01-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16123718)
I finally had the stomach to watch this video, and on the second down play with Hardman, I wonder if Pat was scared of a slight underthrow/behind Mecole that the DB would undercut for a pick 6.

The third down play is just ... it's astounding and sickening. He must've been terrified of a tipped ball in the end zone for an INT. The fact that they only needed a FG to tie must've been in his head, especially after he screwed up the drive at the end of the first half.

If that were fourth down, or they needed a TD to tie, or they were down 4 points, I have to believe he makes that throw -- and we win. But he played it safe.

Despite all the hiccups on that drive, I was very confident he was going to throw a TD pass on third down. And son of a bitch, it was there, twice, and he couldn't pull the trigger.

Yeah, the reporters in the post game (predictably) asked more about the final play of the 1st half than the ending of regulation. The play before halftime was just one risky play, and not a sequence of mistakes like the final drive. You also had Mahomes and Hardman run out of bounds on 1st down during that drive, instead of falling inbounds and killing clock.

comochiefsfan 02-01-2022 09:12 AM

Still kind of hard to wrap my mind around what happened to Pat.

So disappointing. He was supposed to be the guy who was immune to "Because Chiefs."

Obviously I never expected him to win every game, but I also never expected him to go out like this.

Stunning.

kcbubb 02-01-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16123718)
The fact that they only needed a FG to tie must've been in his head, especially after he screwed up the drive at the end of the first half.

This is exactly what it was. He must have told himself “don’t give the bengals a chance to win. Run the clock to the end and kick a field goal for the tie unless you have a riskless throw.” He wasn’t throwing that ball on 2nd down because they’d either score too early or it would be incomplete and not burn clock. He didn’t trust the d to stop them. Hero ball…. And we need a better d that mahomes can trust to win the game. I’ll keep beating this drum. We gotta get a killer d line. Spags is only successful with a dominant d line.

BigCatDaddy 02-01-2022 09:19 AM

Was there any possible hit to the head that we didn't see? Something was just not right.

Chiefnj2 02-01-2022 09:26 AM

Watch the Titans and Packers games. Not the first time he played like this.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-01-2022 09:29 AM

People are saying Pat doesn’t know how to read defenses. They ripped 8 and it’s like Pat never saw that coverage before

Rainbarrel 02-01-2022 09:34 AM

Confucius sticking a finger with vinegar in his mouth and smiling. SWEETNESS IS COMING! BITCHES!

Gary Cooper 02-01-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16123766)
Was there any possible hit to the head that we didn't see? Something was just not right.

It's possible he wasn't feeling well but was afraid to tell someone. God knows athletes did that in the past to avoid looking weak.

You would think with today's concussion protocol that can't happen, but why not? If the player doesn't appear woozy and doesn't say anything, who will know whether he's concussed? No player wants to miss the rest of a big game.

Shields68 02-01-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16123696)
True. However, Reid ands EB needed to recognize that Patrick was off and maybe run the bal.

Guess I would make two points, 1 right or wrong our run game has a lot of rpo's Pat pretty much any play can pull the ball out and throw it. 2 seemed like the first couple drives was a first down run for 4 and two incompletes. Not behind the chains but not really ahead either. You got here with pat, I would have been more upset if they lost running the ball then going down without giving pat the chance to win it. Which they did.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2022 09:49 AM

I legit think something got affected, mentally or physically, when he tackled the DT after the INT. For most of the third quarter he was still playing semi competently, with the skill guys dropping a couple key balls. After that, though, he just completely lost it.

The Franchise 02-01-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16123840)
I legit think something got affected, mentally or physically, when he tackled the DT after the INT. For most of the third quarter he was still playing semi competently, with the skill guys dropping a couple key balls. After that, though, he just completely lost it.

I think it was a combination.

1. The missed opportunity for points at the end of the first half started it.
2. The exact same halftime score and situation of the last Bengals game.
3. Drops on the first drive after half.
4. Another drive stalled.
5. The INT and the tackle afterwards.

After that....everything from the first 5-6 games of the season came back.

staylor26 02-01-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16123840)
I legit think something got affected, mentally or physically, when he tackled the DT after the INT. For most of the third quarter he was still playing semi competently, with the skill guys dropping a couple key balls. After that, though, he just completely lost it.

I think it was mental.

The play before the half was the first **** up that messed with his confidence, then after the pick his confidence was completely shot.

siberian khatru 02-01-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16123723)
Which is why I still would have ran it every time and would have settled for the FG on 4th if we didn't get in. I might even have gone for it on 4th down to end it in regulation. The whole time burning clock... Just me though.

I agree


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