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Abba-Dabba 08-03-2022 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16392637)
You're the one who used the term"eviscerate."

Why are we not "disemboweling" Chris Jones?

I answered that one.

It's nice you have your word-of-the-day calendar and it's "eviscerate" but understand the connotation and magnitude of it.

Eviscerate <> criticize. No one is saying Chris Jones is beyond "reproach."

Maybe that's your word for tomorrow?
Well I was speaking figuratively, not literally. But if that is what it takes for him to make the tackle when he should.

Pitt Gorilla 08-03-2022 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16393837)
I'm totally going with Shields-Weigmann-Waters but it's all subjective.
Creed is better than Weigmann.

ThaVirus 08-04-2022 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16394233)
Creed is better than Weigmann.
I think a lot of people would agree with that, even after only one season for Creed.

The issue is, Shields was better than Thuney and Waters takes a shit on Trey Smith.

saphojunkie 08-04-2022 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16394437)
I think a lot of people would agree with that, even after only one season for Creed.

The issue is, Shields was better than Thuney and Waters takes a shit on Trey Smith.
Two truths and a lie.

Balto 08-04-2022 08:51 AM
Waters became very overrated IMO

ThaVirus 08-04-2022 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16394504)
Two truths and a lie.
I have to assume you're talking about my take on Waters>Smith.

Waters was a two-time 1st team All-Pro. He was also the third best lineman on one of the top 3 best offensive lines of all time.

Trey Smith might be the third best OL on a unit that may not even be top 3 in the NFL this season.

I really don't think it's close at this point.

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16394541)
Waters became very overrated IMO
So is Trey Smith if we're arguing that he's on Brian Waters' level.

saphojunkie 08-04-2022 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16394618)
I have to assume you're talking about my take on Waters>Smith.

Waters was a two-time 1st team All-Pro. He was also the third best lineman on one of the top 3 best offensive lines of all time.

Trey Smith might be the third best OL on a unit that may not even be top 3 in the NFL this season.

I really don't think it's close at this point.



So is Trey Smith if we're arguing that he's on Brian Waters' level.
Trey Smith is a second year player. Taking an all pro at his zenith isn't a fair comparison, and I'd still say that "takes a shit" is excessive.

ThaVirus 08-04-2022 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16394640)
Trey Smith is a second year player. Taking an all pro at his zenith isn't a fair comparison, and I'd still say that "takes a shit" is excessive.
Well that's your fault for not paying attention to the conversation.

This comment sparked it: "Watching Thuney-Creed-Trey is amazing. It’s the best IOL in the league and the best we’ve ever had."

Note the 'best we've ever had'. That implies that it is better, right now, than that interior of Shields-Weigmann-Waters IN THEIR PRIME.

Prime Brian Waters from 2003, 2004, 2005 takes a massive shit on Trey Smith in 2021. Be realistic here, dude.

ThaVirus 08-04-2022 10:15 AM
Like I said, Waters was the third best lineman on an OL that included Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Roaf is probably a top 5 LT of all time and Shields is probably top 3 LG of all time.

Trey Smith might not even be the third best lineman we have at this exact moment, depending on how you feel about Brown Jr.

I'm shocked anyone would even make the argument, tbh.

BWillie 08-04-2022 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16391483)
Please get pics of Frank Clark’s lean long legs.
i remember when breeland speaks came into camp in the best shape of his life.

say, whats he been doing since 2018?

RaidersOftheCellar 08-04-2022 02:10 PM
Not sure if this was posted:

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