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BigRedChief 07-15-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8743381)
It would be nice if they'd focus on scoring more than two goddamn runs a game.

They are a very streaky team with their run scoring.

whoman69 07-15-2012 09:12 PM

They're going to have to start their comeback early this year. I'm not going to blame a rookie manager.

OnTheWarpath15 07-16-2012 08:27 PM

What the **** is with this team and the 7th ****ing inning?

luv 07-16-2012 09:18 PM

Back in it.

Scott Pilgrim 07-16-2012 09:18 PM

Too bad Matt Holiday is not clutch

luv 07-16-2012 09:20 PM

Woohoo!

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8746328)
Too bad Matt Holiday is not clutch

Yeah and that Craig needs to work of it too.

OnTheWarpath15 07-16-2012 09:20 PM

Don't **** this up, Motte.

Better yet, lets get another run just in case.

luv 07-16-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8746339)
Don't **** this up, Motte.

Better yet, lets get another run just in case.

Motte makes me nervous. I agree. Two runs, even.

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8746339)
Don't **** this up, Motte.

Better yet, lets get another run just in case.

Can we get a hell yeah!:D

luv 07-16-2012 09:23 PM

Let's go Yadi! I love you, man!

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8746325)
Back in it.

1 strike and we are shut out. If we win this its got to leave a mark on the Brewers.

luv 07-16-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 8746368)
Let's go Yadi! I love you, man!

It's okay Yadi. I still love you.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2012 09:25 PM

Motte throws a little to hard to be safe in a field like this.

At 98 mph, if the hitter just flicks the bat head out there he can drive it over the fence. 1-run lead in a small ballpark is an absolute house of horrors for Motte.

I'm not real comfortable right now, that's for sure. I'd almost rather see Boggs or maybe even Rosenthal in these spots. Motte's stuff just doesn't play well in this situation.

luv 07-16-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8746372)
1 strike and we are shut out. If we win this its got to leave a mark on the Brewers.

It will be a huge comeback, for sure. I won't be sighing relief until we get three outs here with no runs.

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8746384)
Motte throws a little to hard to be safe in a field like this.

At 98 mph, if the hitter just flicks the bat head out there he can drive it over the fence. 1-run lead in a small ballpark is an absolute house of horrors for Motte.

I'm not real comfortable right now, that's for sure. I'd almost rather see Boggs or maybe even Rosenthal in these spots. Motte's stuff just doesn't play well in this situation.

Yadi is calling for the cutter to try to throw off the timing of the hitters.

luv 07-16-2012 09:29 PM

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Scott Pilgrim 07-16-2012 09:30 PM

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BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8746408)
Yadi is calling for the cutter to try to throw off the timing of the hitters.

And its working for the first two outs.

luv 07-16-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8746423)
2

Whew! Come on guys. One more.

Scott Pilgrim 07-16-2012 09:31 PM

And There It Is Huge Win

luv 07-16-2012 09:32 PM

Wow!

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:32 PM

Damn Motte owned those guys. That was very pleasant to see.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8746408)
Yadi is calling for the cutter to try to throw off the timing of the hitters.

First pitch cutters to Hart and Weeks was brilliant.

Neither one of them was in the AB once Motte got that first 'offspeed' pitch thrown for a strike.

Like I've said - if he never throws that cutter for a single strike, it's still worth throwing 20% of the time. Weeks and Hart are the kind of guys that can really hurt Motte and he just absolutely mowed through them in large part due to what amounts to a below average cutter.

OnTheWarpath15 07-16-2012 09:38 PM

Nice comeback, thanks to Axford for not being able to find the strike zone.

Hopefully this sparks something with this group. They need a 7 game run or something.

luv 07-16-2012 09:40 PM

Holliday player of the game.

BigRedChief 07-16-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8746464)
First pitch cutters to Hart and Weeks was brilliant.

Neither one of them was in the AB once Motte got that first 'offspeed' pitch thrown for a strike.

Like I've said - if he never throws that cutter for a single strike, it's still worth throwing 20% of the time. Weeks and Hart are the kind of guys that can really hurt Motte and he just absolutely mowed through them in large part due to what amounts to a below average cutter.

He doesnt need to have a fantastic cutter. Be nice but not neccessary. He just needs them to not sit on that fastball every single pitch.

luv 07-16-2012 10:01 PM

I saw Rosenthal pitch at the last Springfield Cards game I went to a few weeks ago.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-17-2012 08:49 AM

Brew Crew blow

BigRedChief 07-17-2012 09:35 PM

1st and 3rd no one out. 2nd and 3rd with one out down by one run and we can't get a run across the plate? Wonder why? Maybe because we had carpenter, shumaker, delcasso as our murderers row. And we start Tyler green?

VAChief 07-18-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8749495)
1st and 3rd no one out. 2nd and 3rd with one out down by one run and we can't get a run across the plate? Wonder why? Maybe because we had carpenter, shumaker, delcasso as our murderers row. And we start Tyler green?

Rinse, repeat.

At least I got a chance to see Rosenthal. Definitely jittery, but man what a cannon. That fastball he threw on his first strikeout had some hair on it.

BigRedChief 07-18-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 8751175)
Rinse, repeat.

At least I got a chance to see Rosenthal. Definitely jittery, but man what a cannon. That fastball he threw on his first strikeout had some hair on it.

did you see that strikeout by Holliday? The ball bounced 5 feet in front of the plate. How do you swing at a pitch that bad?

Frazod 07-18-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8751343)
did you see that strikeout by Holliday? The ball bounced 5 feet in front of the plate. How do you swing at a pitch that bad?

MVP! MVP! :rolleyes:

VAChief 07-18-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8751343)
did you see that strikeout by Holliday? The ball bounced 5 feet in front of the plate. How do you swing at a pitch that bad?

Yes, that was a huge dump. It's K-Rod, every other pitch is an adventure...even behind you wait and fight off borderline pitches and he will eventually cave.

VAChief 07-18-2012 08:46 PM

I know this is radical, but send Descalso down, trade Greene for whatever you can get...call up Wong and Taveras. We need some new energy, those guys are studs. Berkman needed a tune up in the minors he looks like he did two years ago when he tried to push through. Let him play spotty until he gets his groove back and give the young ones a little taste.

Frazod 07-18-2012 08:48 PM

Just heard on the Chicago local news that the Cardinals are a late entry into the Dempster hunt (obviously no link).

rico 07-21-2012 07:59 PM

How bout that 12 run inning? And to top it off they score 0 runs vs. Westbrook in 7 innings. LOL!!! God I hate the Cubs worse than anything in the world and love it when our redbirds rail them in the ass.

VAChief 07-21-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8751811)
Just heard on the Chicago local news that the Cardinals are a late entry into the Dempster hunt (obviously no link).

Anything more than Cox or Greene and a Cleto or Marte and it doesn't make sense.

BigRedChief 07-21-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 8758335)
Anything more than Cox or Greene and a Cleto or Marte and it doesn't make sense.

I've never been impressed with Dempster. But give em those names mentioned and I'd pull the trigger on that deal.

Frazod 07-21-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ricoswaff (Post 8758306)
How bout that 12 run inning? And to top it off they score 0 runs vs. Westbrook in 7 innings. LOL!!! God I hate the Cubs worse than anything in the world and love it when our redbirds rail them in the ass.

Yeah, I was watching the game at the bar earlier. With one of my Cub fan friends. Great fun was had by me, but not him. :D

OnTheWarpath15 07-22-2012 01:50 PM

Why can't we play the Cubs more often?

Pasta Little Brioni 07-22-2012 02:42 PM

:D

BigRedChief 07-22-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8759547)
Why can't we play the Cubs more often?

wern't they on a bit of a hot streak coming in?

Wonder if Wainwright's talk had anything to do with this weekend. I heard that after the Cardinals got swept Waino stood up in the locker room and said we are better than this, we are underachieving, we have to do better. Then called out the underachieving publically in front of reporters and it of course makes it into the media.

BigRedChief 07-24-2012 06:30 PM

Same record as last year at this point. Does anyone see a path forward that we achieve the same result as last year?

rico 07-24-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8764862)
Same record as last year at this point. Does anyone see a path forward that we achieve the same result as last year?

I think it's possible if everybody just consistently plays to their ability.

rico 07-24-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8758457)
Yeah, I was watching the game at the bar earlier. With one of my Cub fan friends. Great fun was had by me, but not him. :D

Very few feelings can possibly top being in the presence of pouting Cubs fans. It seriously never gets old.

VAChief 07-24-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8764862)
Same record as last year at this point. Does anyone see a path forward that we achieve the same result as last year?

Sure, especially if they don't wait till the middle of August to turn it around. That was once in a lifetime. I'm not sure they are built for the post season success. Carpenter proved to be a catalyst and the bullpen was on nearly flawless when it counted.

Frazod 07-24-2012 09:12 PM

Nice win tonight. Piss-pounded Kershaw and the Dodgers. :thumb:

rico 07-24-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8765338)
Nice win tonight. Piss-pounded Kershaw and the Dodgers. :thumb:

:thumb:

BigRedChief 07-24-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8765338)
Nice win tonight. Piss-pounded Kershaw and the Dodgers. :thumb:

Kershaw is the real deal and he was dealing tonight. To knock him off his game and out of the game was impressive. That just doesnt happen when Kershaw is on his game like he was tonight.

OnTheWarpath15 07-25-2012 09:12 PM

Seriously, Tyler Greene has to go.

O.city 07-25-2012 09:13 PM

Don't understand at this point, what Greene brings to the table?

OnTheWarpath15 07-25-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8767907)
Don't understand at this point, what Greene brings to the table?

Speed and speed alone.

Problem is, speed means nothing if you get picked off before you can use it.

O.city 07-25-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8767912)
Speed and speed alone.

Problem is, speed means nothing if you get picked off before you can use it.

Well he does have speed, but he can't get on base either.

O.city 07-25-2012 09:22 PM

I would like to make some type of move for some bullpen help, or even starting pitching help.

whoman69 07-25-2012 10:14 PM

I read Jay is on the trading block.

whoman69 07-25-2012 10:19 PM

Another game blacked out even though I'm 270 miles from STL.

Frazod 07-25-2012 11:26 PM

Nice to finally at least not lose a series to LA. Hopefully they'll melt in the heat again tomorrow.

BigRedChief 07-26-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8767912)
Speed and speed alone.

Problem is, speed means nothing if you get picked off before you can use it.

It's time for that speed to head to another team. I understand the teams giving Greene chance after chance to prove himself. But for whatever reason his talent is just not showing itself consistently at the major league level. We need to throw him in on any deal for middle relief and if Mo doesnt make a deal DFA him. We need his roster spot. Give it to Robinson. He's got speed and is batting .280 as a pinch hitter off the bench.

Bowser 07-26-2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8767912)
Speed and speed alone.

Problem is, speed means nothing if you get picked off before you can use it.

Hey, you guys have your very own Jarrod Dyson! That's great!

VAChief 07-26-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8768475)
It's time for that speed to head to another team. I understand the teams giving Greene chance after chance to prove himself. But for whatever reason his talent is just not showing itself consistently at the major league level. We need to throw him in on any deal for middle relief and if Mo doesnt make a deal DFA him. We need his roster spot. Give it to Robinson. He's got speed and is batting .280 as a pinch hitter off the bench.

I would agree we need another right handed option off the bench. I'm not particularly sold on Descalso as our only back up at short. If you trade or DFA Greene, why not add Ryan Jackson to the 40 man (why Kosma is on there is beyond reason)? His bat has come around (.275 with 8 hrs) and he is generally considered to be a plus glove. I know they wanted to give him a full season at Memphis, but it is worth considering.

Mi_chief_fan 07-26-2012 03:32 PM

Good to win 3 straight over the Dodgers, nice to score some runs for a change.

Frazod 07-26-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 8769810)
Good to win 3 straight over the Dodgers, nice to score some runs for a change.

[ESPN Big Market Knobslob]Somehow the Cardinals managed to beat the mighty Dodgers two straight games even after they acquired Hanley Ramirez[/ESPN Big Market Knobslob]

Pasta Little Brioni 07-26-2012 04:18 PM

Nice beating those Doyer :whackit::whackit::whackit: scumbags

Marcellus 07-26-2012 06:19 PM

Hmmmmm

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...9bb30f31a.html


"Holliday’s presence has been felt mostly in the last month when he’s had a bat in his hands. His 50th career homer at new Busch Stadium was part of a two-hit day that raised his average to .319. Over his last 33 games, he is 52 for 124 (.419)."

Pasta Little Brioni 07-27-2012 08:34 AM

He's been red hot. Freese is getting there as well.

BigRedChief 07-27-2012 02:02 PM

Balls are flying out of wrigley today.

Frazod 07-27-2012 02:06 PM

Good God, I guess. Man, what the hell has happened to Lynn? :spock:

Jewish Rabbi 07-27-2012 02:43 PM

Holliday's dinger was one of the longest I've ever seen at Wrigley.

Frazod 07-27-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 8772296)
Holliday's dinger was one of the longest I've ever seen at Wrigley.

Did it land in the street or hit one of the buildings?

CoMoChief 07-27-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 8772296)
Holliday's dinger was one of the longest I've ever seen at Wrigley.

Ever watch Sosa hit?

loochy 07-27-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertaker (Post 8772335)
Ever watch Sosa hit?

LOL i forgot about that guy. Isn't he white now?

Frazod 07-27-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertaker (Post 8772335)
Ever watch Sosa hit?

Corked or uncorked?

VAChief 07-27-2012 03:28 PM

That's a winner!

Frazod 07-27-2012 03:37 PM

Would have been a nice day for it, too. It's actually fairly pleasant up here for a change.

CoMoChief 07-27-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8772355)
Corked or uncorked?

LOL...c'mon he was using his "batting practice" bat

and I have some beachfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you.

Jewish Rabbi 07-27-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8772314)
Did it land in the street or hit one of the buildings?

Nah it was to center. Damn near would have hit the scoreboard if it were to the right just a little more.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-27-2012 06:55 PM

When is frazod going to become Jake the Snake Roberts?

Frazod 07-27-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8772812)
When is frazod going to become Jake the Snake Roberts?

I'm thinking.... never.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-28-2012 01:13 PM

Roll over cubbies. Threatening to take the lead in a tie game in the 7th


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