Peyton is going to Miami. The deal was done weeks ago. ESPN And NFLN aren't even aware that teams not on the east coast exist.

Thats right. remember when Fisher signed with Miami? Harbaugh? Pujols? Those guys know their stuff.

The Jimmy Johnson tweet bugs me the most...

He isn't just some guy like "omar." Rather, he is a former coach who I am certain knows individuals beyond the limits which the local media can reach at the Dolphins organization...

:(

Yeah I'm sure amongst all the insiders and writers, Jimmy Johnson is the one who knows where Manning is going...lol don't think so.

Not saying it is true, but in regards to your comment...

You think it is absurd to think that Jimmy Johnson may have access to some information that the local media doesn't have access to?

Who besides Stephen Ross is still there compared to the time when he was with the Dolphins?

It was atleast 50 I think. I remember that it was pretty warm especially for the time of year.

That's your answer?

I'm asking the question because who would be his super secret sources if none of the same people are there????

No dude. No way.

Even his tweet sounded like speculation.

Jimmy Johnson really isn't a dialed in guy. I don't know what access he has as a studio analyst. He lives in Miami and spends most of his time on a boat, I know that.

I think he's just taking media reports and the fact that Peyton lives down there. If his report really had any merit, you'd think that Schefter would have reported the same today.

We had 2 inches of snow in KC this year. It hasn't exactly been a freezing winter here this year.

So you don't think he has access to anything more than what the "Insiders" have access to?

Uh no I don't.

And isn't it pretty damn hot there through October or so?

Thanks for not answering my questions with another question.

:D

I seriously doubt it.

The guy probably has as much inside info as Dan Marino, probably less.

KC has had plenty of pretty mild winters. I wouldn't call it "a cold blizzardy winter" city.

It's been a crazy year here weather wise. We have had 65 degree days here lately. It was pretty warm all fall and winter.

Speaking of weather...

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FWIW, on all this talk about Manning wanting to play in good weather...reader points out Feb. 05 Manning appearance on Letterman..(cont)

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In 2005: "I'd rather play outdoors if I had my choice. It's kinda where football is supposed to be played." OK, 6 year old quote.

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Readers tracking down 7 year old Manning quotes on Letterman....yeah, must be free agency.

Neither of us play football, but I think it's safe to say we'd trade Kansas City weather for Miami's.

Heck the day he lit is up in the playoffs it was 54 degrees. We were pissed because of what we thought would happen did happen because the weather was nice.

Good shit Arrowhead Pride! I was worried about that.

Almost the same winter here in the NY area. Its been a weird one.

Miami weather isn't for football.



Sorry, but when I think of Chiefs football, I want there to be a nip in the air. Best fall football days.


Hell, some of the best times I've ever had at Arrowhead, I nearly froze to death.

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Believe it or not, I'll be updating the Peyton Manning quest at 7ET on Total Access, and touching on some other big-name free agents as well


I don't have NFLN sooo....

I have it. I'll be all over it, just keep reminding me.

I'll pass on those days. I like the pre-November games at Arrowhead.
I went to the opener last year. The weather was the best part about that wretched game.

You won't be missing anything. Dolphins, Jets, Cardinals and he doesn't wanna play for Washington, no matter how bad the Talking heads want him too.

There.

I just saved you a ton of time.

You're welcome.

Nah, way too hot.


Last years playoff game was perfect for football at Arrowhead.

There is the rumor now that Manning wants to play in a warm weather environment.

You never can tell how much of this shit is real or not.

But everyone EVERYONE seems to think it's Miami and no one else.

Thanks.

But...I don't have NFLN, so it wasn't going to be wasting my time nonetheless.

Yup and for the other free agents: Cowboys, Redskins, and Jets.

Ding. You got it.

Not sure what NFLN is good for anymore.

I'm glad I got rid of cable.

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Lombardi thinks he's going to the Texans LOL...sure...

The Texans?

WTF?

Was he serious or just throwing it out there?

I don't know...he sounded serious but he laughed too at the end.

It's ridiculous.

Has anyone been listening to 810 the last 20 minutes or so....?

The old man said he heard them say that Mannings Agent is in town. I wan't to make sure that wasn't stated before I start to tease for being old and crazy.

You failed me.

http://captionsearch.com/pix/thumb/0yur4l5jvr-t.jpg

Yeah?

Who is "Them"?

Perfect.

Thank you.

Isn't Condon also Bowe's agent?

DUN DUN DUN

I don't know for certain. I was asking.

They are in salary cap hell. They would have to gut the team.

Bowe's agent is Todd France

Good catch.

Does anyone know how incentives work w/ regard to the cap? Example: if a player has an incentive that he earns x amount for playing 16 games, does that count against the cap?

For those saying money would be a major factor in Mannings decision, why would he turn the Redskins down then?

So is it confirmed that Mannings agent is actually in KC?


Maybe the deal was secretly done a month or so ago when whoever said the Chiefs were talking to Condon?

NFC team.
Doesn't want to play Eli twice a year.
Doesn't want to go through Brady.
They're the ones that got him hurt in the first place.
Yadda Yadda Yadda.

But I don't think money is Manning's #1 motivating factor.

Incentives are basically figured into the players cap hit for that year as if they will achieve them. There is also a certain allowance that teams can go over the cap a bit if it's due to bonuses and other stuff beyond the base sary.

That's a big reason teams are allowed to roll over cap dollars from one year to the next. If your players don't achieve their incentives, that's basically unused cap space and the league is allowing you to sound that kind of money the following year.

He is looking at houses in Leawood for him as well.

Awesome. Thank you!

Isn't Condon from here and went to school at SM East?

So they were talking about top free agents (Nicks and Finnegan) and guess who they talked about? THE DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!!

I think so.


Maybe that gives us the advantage. He can tell Peyton which bbq is the best.

BTW Condon played for the Chiefs back in the day.

Kind of.

That's actually a card that works in Miamis favor.

They can structure it with a low base, but incentives that allow the team to exceed the salary cap once they are achieved.

I guess we could out that to use, too....but I don't know enough of the details to know exactly which incentives you can use that allow you to exceed the cap and how we could take advantage of that without screwing ourselves in future years.

Sign a few big ticket free agents and Peyton but work the deals so that they would have lots of incentives worked into them that would allow us to go over the cap. Front load them to an extent and make the incentives that are easily achievable worked in and push it to the limit in full blown win now mode....hahaha

Then, we wake up and have to try and get worked up about Kyle Orton.

The other end of that is that teams also MUST spend 99% of the cap in CASH spending.

I wonder how much CASH we have committed to current deals.

If Clark wanted too, he could increase the amount it costs to buy those luxury boxes to the amount it would take to pay Mannings contract, sign the guy and make up all the money.


Businesses and the rich in KC would pay out the ass to get those boxes if 18 is tossing the ball around on Sundays.

Throw it all at him

Fine with me.

According to this guy the Chiefs offered Manning a contract.

https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonSpano/...67334324047872

BREAKING: Source says that the Chiefs were the ONLY team to offer a completed contract to Peyton Manning today. Says they are most prepared

GoChiefs with a n00b like repost.

The league has to spend 99%. Teams only have to spend 89%.

For the 2011 season, the Chiefs were well above 89%. Clark told the Star a few weeks ago that it will never be a problem.

Condom and the Chiefs have a pretty ugly past when Carl Peterson was GM...
Who knows though, maybe things are different now..

Well lets hope he hates Carl still. That wouldn't help MIA's chances. In the end Peyton is going to make up his own mind.

Peyton Manning

Condom and the Chiefs...they go great together