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Pretty talented player. Hope his ACL holds up because he's pretty fun to watch. |
The question is will we have a RCB and LCB (dedicated to one side of the field) like last year or will they be moving around?
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No it isn't. The two biggest changes you're going to see with this defense is the addition of quite a few different fronts (that were not used or used with great infrequency) such as your reduce, over-ed, under, 46, and storm fronts (all Sutton/Rex terminology). The second biggest addition is the utilization of fire-zone concepts from the majority of those fronts, especially out of "odd", "under" and "rock/laser". This one is probably the one I'm more giddy about. You're still going to see quite a bit of zone, especially more quarters and cover 6. Keep in mind that Romeo's philosophy stems from Parcells/Belichick, in which the primary principles are to play zone coverage on 1st-2nd down (typically) and tight, press man on 3rd. It's literally one of the first thing in Saban's PBs at both LSU and Bama. |
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However, it's impossible to say, especially with them giving Flowers work in the slot during OTAs (and possibly TC, I just have no idea and we probably should have had someone who was there pay attention for it). I haven't noticed Smith playing anything but RCB but again, I haven't examined any of it too thoroughly. |
I didn't say bump and run was the only change but, it could be the biggest imo. Yeah, we are going to rush the passer and blitz a lot more. We are going to blitz with the d-linemen.
But, in the past decade, two teams have consistently ran the bump and run. The Packers when they had Harris and MacKenzie and more recently the Jets with Revis and Cromartie. Bump and Run defenses are rare now a days. When we line up in the base defenses (3-4, 46, etc.) and the nickel, we'll be running bump and run more often than not. Also, I'm not saying we won't see some zone. Everyone runs zone a good bit. |
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Plenty of teams play bump and run out of base fronts. Additionally, out of the two non sub-packages from Rex/Sutton (Base and Titan), you're only seeing C1 man with 46 Single and Under Sam You 1. For every other front, you're going to typically see quarters, c6, c3, c2, and the last two with FZ concepts. |
Teams don't consistently run bump and run coverage like we are going to. I didn't say nobody does it. I'm just saying teams rarely hang their hat on it anymore.
I have to disagree with you man. It's a simple concept. No need to show off. |
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I kinda liked that Bellamy kid.
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Lets not discuss canty, still upset we let him leave KC with no deal.
And ftr, I think king was talking about him being our third corner and that you won't find many teams whose 3 corner is that much better. I don't really agree or disagree just think there was a mix up there |
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Dear God, please let Bailey and/or (I know that if you exist, you're probably busy with stuff) Catapano develop into a viable option for us. Luv, Bawksy. |
Catapano at de is intriguing to me.
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Werner was listed in that thread as 6'3/275lbs, although his combine profile says 266. Catapano was listed on his draft profile as 6'3/277. |
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So I'll have to reserve comment simply because I have no clue about either of them |
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Which goes back to the original question of why Arenas isn't playing nickle/dime and competing for a starting nickel role, while you have someone like Cooper as your development guy to back up Flowers or Smith maybe a year from now, with Jalil Brown or some other veteran being a guy who can step in right away until Cooper is ready. I feel like we were a little reckless in handling our CB depth. |
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JJ Watt as an example, is 6'5/290 on his draft profile. Probably a bit heavier than that now. Geno Atkins is 6'1/293 on his draft profile, and Sheldon Richardson is 6'2/294. So I suppose you'd ideally want to get Catapano up into the mid 290s. |
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Now, I don't really have a problem with him being groomed as a sub 3tech who can rush the passer but it'd be nice to have a DE that could do it all. Of course, every team wants one. |
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If smith or flowers go down, I don't think the difference in brown and one of these guys (who seem to have more upside, I dunno though) wouldn't be much different. In the end, I don't think the difference between brown, arenas and the two we brought in is that significant at this point, and it seems they think the two we brought in have more upside. I'll never get upset about making moves for more upside players like that, but when they're that young and that close to having to play a big role, it becomes worrisome |
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If he's a sub three tech that excels at rushing the passer, that would be great though with as much as we're in those sets, especially against teams that aren't geared towards the run. |
Hammond looked really good in that last preseason game too. AJ Jenkins better show some stuff on the field or I'm gonna be pissed
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I actually disagree that the Arenas cut wasn't significant. I'm trying to understand it and just can't. He can step in tomorrow and be solid. He's young and can play for years. A headscratching move given our CB situation. |
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It's funny that we've spent so much time getting non-pass rushing DTs and cutting them down to a DE/DT tweener. This seems really unique to take a DE who can pass rush and beefing him up. I really like it. |
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Iirc, arenas asked to be traded so I would imagine that's where that came from, after we signed Robinson. |
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That's actually my biggest concern with him - lingering injuries. I worry, like SNR, that he'll be a guy that's constantly dinged and we'll hear excuses for him all year about bad hamstrings or a bad back keeping him from making the play. That said, when I was at camp I did notice that Robinson was an excellent teammate. He was constantly working with the guys out there. Chiefs fans keep focusing on McCluster beating him up last year without looking at the entirety of his work. When you look at what he did over the entire year, he was actually a solid player, if an erratic one. After getting abused in week 1 and 5, he only surrendered one more TD in coverage all season. Moreover, with Grimes going down, Robinson was forced back out to an island and frankly, I just don't think he has the skills for that anymore. He still did a credible job out there though. And you're absolutely right - teams are going to attack him, but again, it's all relative. Teams are going to attack whoever we put in as the NCB. The only way Robinson is "costing us games" is if he's failing in ways other similarly situated players wouldn't have. So it gets back to my original question - who's better at NCB? You can argue that the Chiefs should have been - had they not traded Arenas. But that's a gripe for Dorsey, not Robinson. Robinson didn't make the trade. You can gripe that Robinson's overpaid - but again, that's a Dorsey problem, not Robinson. Personally, I'd have preferred see DRC brought in, but we'd have a similar cast of characters saying that he sucks, blah blah blah. DRC is on a 1 yr deal for $5 million whereas realistically, Robinson is on a 1 yr deal for about $4.75 or a 2 yr deal for $8.1. Those are both a little high to me, but not catastrophic. Ultimately the problem is where we're starting from. We had holes to fill everywhere and only a few draft picks and FA to do it with. With so many holes we couldn't go after high priced FAs and the cheaper ones aren't ideal. FAs, but their definition, are guys that other teams didn't feel were good enough to find a way to keep and when you need to bring in 5 of them, you have to spread the money out pretty thin. Robinson, DRC, anybody else available as FAs in that price range were going to have warts. DRC's were that he wouldn't hit anyone and for a NCB, that's trouble - I want some physicality in my slot CB and it appears Dorsey does as well. So it's about choosing the warts that fit your team. In the end, however, we have to live with the warts because this team was hot garbage. So while I wouldn't have chosen Robinson over other options, he's still a guy that's going to make this team better and frankly, he's a guy that was available. In terms of pure talent and ability on the field, Robinson's no worse than an average NCB and I'd say he has a chance to be substantially better. The Broncos are better there than we are (Harris) and really, that's about it. Until Robinson's out there blowing coverages that the average NCB doesn't blow, I can't say he's 'costing us games'. |
Given the turd this team has laid on the field for the past several years, I have emotional investment in very very few players who remained on the roster.
It's kind of a nice change of pace to see someone bring out a pooper scooper and haul off these turds. Brown was appropriately named because his play smelled like a burned turd. |
Heh. DJ's slip-up of using McCluster when he meant Robinson was pretty timely.
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Didn't slip up. McCluster beat up on Robinson. Chiefs fans focus on that because...well it's the only time we ever saw McCluster beat anyone up. But it's not a dispositive performance. Yeah, Robinson played like ass that day and he'll probably play like ass a time or two this year (he's erratic, as I have conceded). But he's not garbage either. |
Holy shit DJ just wrote a whole article
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Wow. I must have had WAAAY too much to drink on my birthday. :doh!:
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I'm just a little pissed at the move because I feel Arenas > Robinson at this point in their careers and think it was wasted resources to get older and more expensive at the position. I'd have much rather kept Arenas and take him off special teams and let him focus on his duties as the NB, but what's done is done. Hopefully, Hussain can get the job done and stay healthy so Dunta doesn't have a chance to be a liability. I think Hussain is gonna deserve a big payday after this year. |
McDougald back on the team. holla
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More KC Chiefs roster moves: Bradley McDougald is back, Sanders Commings to designated IR
By Joel Thorman on Sep 3 2013, 4:37p 21 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...ated-to-return John Rieger-USA TODAY Sports More roster moves for the Chiefs: S Sanders Commings to IR-designated to return, S Bradley McDougald signed and OG Rishawn Johnson added to the practice squad. The roster moves continue for the Kansas City Chiefs. Despite the team being off today, the KC Chiefs made three roster moves. #Chiefs place S Sanders Commings on IR w/ a designation for return & signs S Bradley McDougald to 53 & adds OG Rishawn Johnson to PS — Reid Ferrin (@KCChiefs_Reid) September 3, 2013 Let's review these. IR-designated to return: S Sanders Commings The Chiefs chose not to use the IR-designated to return on Tony Moeaki. They did use it on Commings. This designation means Commings, who was a fifth round pick by the Chiefs in April, can not practice until Week 6 and can not play until after Week 8. It frees up a roster spot in the mean time, which is the reason teams do it. It can only be used on one player so this is it. Commings broke his collarbone on July 23. It was expected to be a 6-8 week injury. With him needing time to acclimate to the defense I can see why this move was made. I just wonder if it was the best move. Commings is set to be a reserve safety. I wonder what the reaction would be if something happened to a more important player they could've possibly used it on. Hopefully that's not the case. Teams could first use the IR-designated to return option today. Signed to active roster: S Bradley McDougald He spent the offseason with the Chiefs. I expect the end of the roster to fluctuate throughout the season. Signed to practice squad: G Rishawn Johnson Another former Seahawks player. In case you missed it, the Chiefs claimed three Seahawks players over the weekend. Here's what the Chiefs bio on Johnson says: Johnson (6-3, 313) originally entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent with the Seattle Seahawks in April of 2012. He served primarily on the Seahawks practice squad during his rookie season before being released by Seattle on Aug. 31, 2013. He played collegiately at California University of Pennsylvania and was a teammate of current Chiefs center Eric Kush. Johnson was voted a team captain for the Vulcans and was a first-team All-American in 2011 after playing the previous three seasons at Ole Miss. He prepped at Hammond High School in Hammond, La. |
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An all California, PA offensive line! Woooo!
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Not crazy at all about picking up Johnson. Again, I think it's fair to ask if we're just repeating past mistakes by relying on tree guys for players. How many Seahawks have we brought in now in these final stages? |
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I would be more worried if we were taking castoffs from bad teams with no depth, not the two teams at the top of the power rankings. |
We have nine players on our practice squad.
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I do think it's revealing that none of the players we released were picked up elsewhere, but that other teams put in claims on the guys we got. Little improvements don't make headlines, but I totally believe these efforts will pay off in the long run. |
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Personally, I'd be worried if they didn't rely on the people they know the best who are running the teams with the most talent. I don't see that as repeating a mistake even if it didn't work out in the past. |
So if somebody gets injured, do we put in Marcus Cooper and/or Ron Parker? Do we play an extra safety?
I'd go with the extra safety, personally, since a week isn't an ideal amount of time to throw a player onto the field. |
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Watkins is suspended week 1 for prior incident with his last team thus allowing us to carry 9 PS players, I heard.
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Are we still talking about this Danny Watkins?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...om-the-get-go/ The one that is signed by Miami? Or have I missed something? (quite possible, busy day) Posted via Mobile Device |
yea, that guy. Not to be confused with Danny Watkins, a Miami Dolphin, not coming here. Jeff Allen way too good. fart.
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