It's cold outside. :D

Finebaum? Finebaum? Finebaum?

Yeah true I kind of forgot about that. ****it just wait until next season

no, but Tyson Jackson and Dwyane Bowe…yes

Okay, what did Finebaum say?

SEC? SEC?

Yeah not so much tonight.

Which is why I always take the time to laugh at them, because they are just incredibly arrogant, and they needed to take it down a notch or two.

He's hiding in a cave somewhere. Pussy.

Goddamn I didn't realise Saul Good angered this many people.

Is Finebaum a radio guy?

Don't forget Eric Berry and Justin Houston!

There's a 1700 post thread on the front page that's basically just mindless arguing over conference pride, and nearly 500 of those posts are by two people. And that's not even the first incarnation of that thread.

Really, if we made a separate forum for Saul, PB and Wickedson (Ala D.C.), I think this forum would see a measurable decline in hostility.

I am going to have a great dream tonight.


Saban will get ran off by Bama's idiot fans, and KSU will hire him.


My morning wood will be immense until it collapses under the weight of reality when I wake up.

Oh he's basically written a novel over the past two years regarding "Big 12-4+3-1, Big Leftover, Big Bevo, etc…"

It's quite stunning actually.

The Big XII can go from being pathetic in some people's eyes to being awesome in some people's eyes in the span of a day. Why? Because people think bowl games, with their fluky outcomes, actually matter at all. It's some transitive property fallacious BS, and it is so lazy.

Great game. I thought Bama would kill them. It doesn't matter anyway, I'm sure Bama is crying in all their national title trophies. I'm pretty sure they have the #1 recruiting class or right up there again. It's safe to say they'll throw up the "No1curr" gif at this exhibition game and all the trash talking their fans and program will endure, as they should. Amazing program.

At the very least, I hope this stops the bullshit conversation about how two teams from one conference should ever represent in a national title game. Even if the SEC is clearly a better conference, the only way to know is to put two teams on the same field.

He is on ESPN TV all the time lately. He is a total ****ing homer for the SEC. Lately, all he can talk about is Stoops when he said top to bottom the SEC isn't all that and that their defenses aren't that great. He would pick Vanderbilt over an NFL team. If they are discussing Boise State versus East Hawaii School of Music, he brings the SEC into the conversation. He is a real annoying ****bag.

I know how much Saul trolls. Just didn't realise it bothered so many people.

Are those people cheering for the Chargers and Broncos as well?

Ohhhh, he has a late show. That's why I didn't know.


Thanks.

I don't understand how a bowl game is viewed as a fluke, yet people make judgment calls all the time on how bad a conference is based on the eyeball test.

Pro sports are different. College sports is more of a regional thing... although the growth of all these power conferences could help kill that.

But even then, I don't think any Texas fans were rooting for OU tonight. And I'm 105% sure Auburn fans LOVED what happened tonight.

LMAO ESPN is devastated that Oklahoma won. Calling it the biggest upset in BCS history.

"And that's why they play the games" as so they say.

If the Chiefs win Saturday there will be a special on "What went wrong for the Colts?" There will be a crisis hotline installed and grief counselors.

Fluky outcomes all the time because there isn't anything to really play for, so you have varying levels of mental preparation and readiness. Not to mention the seniors/juniors who are about to declare for the draft, and how that affects mental preparation.

It's why there are so many bowl game upsets. I put WAY more stock into regular season non-conference matchups. Everybody has lots to play for.

I would argue that this is an underlying problem for the single game playoff format, rather than it being something rooted in the college game.

A lot of fluky teams have made it a long way in both the NFL Playoffs and March Madness due to way the system is aligned.

Yeah, that's puzzling to me. As an OU guy I loved the ass kicking Oregon put on Texas.

see my previous post for an elaboration on what I meant by 'fluky'

You put more stock in Alabama's team when they play the Southern Regional Alabama Wildcats? Okay.

Ahh, the old "well we weren't really trying to win" argument. LMAO

Ah, Gotcha.

Stoops has won every major bowl.


Wow.

Nobody puts any stock into those types of games. I'm obviously talking about power conference vs power conference matchups during the regular season.

Unfortunately, these matchups are becoming less common in the college game.

That happens SO so so so often in bowl games. It's obvious when a team flat-out doesn't want to be there.

I don't know why you'd be laughing at something so obvious. Unless you think I'm bringing that up to defend Alabama's performance tonight or something. Which I'm not doing. Alabama played like they wanted to win. They also made a bunch of mistakes and they were severely outcoached on both sides of the ball by Stoops' staff.

yeah, the seeming trend towards bigger and bigger power conferences will make premier nonconference games a thing of the past.

Shit, weren't numerous Oregon players quoted saying they just just didn't give a shit about the bowl they were playing in since it wasn't going to be a NC just last year?

I don't know why every fan on earth doesn't think just like those Oregon players. I know I think that way,

They're 18-22 year old kids that are basically going on a vacation. Plenty of them are probably more amped about chasing down some strange and digging through a ridiculous hospitality bag in their suite than winning a game.

When the system favors a team with four wins over Southeastern Podunk St. over a team with one 3 point loss against Alabama, teams are going to schedule the Podunk St's with January in mind.

I doubt a four game playoff alters this reality.

Probably not. I suppose we can wait until we get to a 8-12 team playoff with SOS being a heavy seed determinant.

Absolutely.

WTF does that have to do with anything? I'm just sick of the media shoving the SEC down our ****ing throats every year. I absolutely love it when the SEC loses. But I love it even more when the media calls a team the "best in the country" even after they fail to win their division or conference and then shit the bed in their bowl game too. I bet we will still hear the media talk about how Alabama is still the best team in the country tomorrow too.

My fault. I thought you were making excuses for Alabama as if OU didn't have the same issues.

THIS

No, they really didn't. Most of us have always hated that overhyped conference.

Nope. I don't root for a conference. I root for my team. BUT I will sure as shit root AGAINST the conference the national media wants to shove down my throat year in and year out.

I wasn't rooting FOR OU, I was rooting against Alabama. I won't be rooting for FSU either BUT definitely AGAINST Auburn.

I wonder if Bama fans will be rooting for Auburn.

I'll never understand why people say this. They are one game events. Haven't we seem enough bowl upsets this year already? And this one is essentially a pick em anyway

Is that sarcasm?

I'm not going to say the SEC is over-hyped.

They've won seven NC's because they're a good conference. The notion of puffing your chest out, while Bama(insert NC caliber SEC program) plays a bowl game; when you were dog-cussing them six weeks before as they pounded your asshole in is ridiculous.

Meh, that is day old news. I want to see what they say tomorrow.

They are a good conference. We don't need to hear the national media talk about them like they are the only conference that matters though.

They've won titles because they have the best team at the top. The bottom half of that league is dogshit like every other league. Their top 1/3 is undoubtably better but I think people are tired of the dingleberrys of that league clinging to Alabama and LSUs butt hairs and thinking their hot shit.


Wow, I outdid myself with that analogy.

Maybe it all ties into the whole "The south will rise again" deal. The modern football confederacy of sorts.

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I'm going with a soft no, mainly because I don't have a strong feel for the people of Alabama.

I dog-cuss them any chance I get, because I get tired of the media shoving their shit down my throat. Every time ESPN talks about a SEC team on their segment, I change the channel. Any article on ESPN or any sport website that talks about SEC, I don't click on that link.

I get tired of having to hear them as if they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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That is awesome.

I will have my crow now 58-4ever. Give me a nice big helping.

After the egg Baylor laid it is nice to have a Big 12 team step up. Who knew it would be the mother of all chokers stoops?

We have always said that teams need to step up and stop the SEC if we want the media to shut the **** up.


OU did their part, and they did it with force.

OU did the one thing they have never seemed to do before last night...play a big game like they wanted to win. Most of the time when Stoops and Co go to a bowl they play not to lose.

You have to give OU their props....they pretty much slapped Bama in the face, pissed in the punch bowl, kissed the Homecoming Queen and then walked away with the trophy.

Big props to OU. Especially to Striker, Grissom, and Knight. They made Bama one dimensional and I've never seen McCarron that rattled.

That was the biggest shocker to me. OU raped Bama's OLine.


Saban and Bama's coaches went full reerun by not running the ball 95% of the time in the 2nd half, though.

Would have been a perfect analkgy if that squib kick hit the bama player in the nuts.

This Alabama fan and student is. It's not unanimous but I'd say it's probably about 75-25 of our fan base in favor of Auburn from what I've seen.

I'm a Bama fan. Though I've battled a nasty cold this past week and was in a NyQuill coma last night. Needless to say I was surprised to see the score today.

Oh well; great season. Kick to the nuts Auburn game.

Going to be interesting next season with McCarron gone. I've seen virtually nothing from Blake Sims. I'm sure he's been covered a bit down there, but it's hard to follow up here at times. Can't wait for the SEC Network this August.

Congrats to OU.

*edit*...
and by 'seen nothing', I mean that I haven't seen him on the field so it's hard to form an opinion.

SEC is a fraud. Can't wait til Auburn gets destroyed. I love it

I'll never understand that line of thinking. Must just be me. Texas can die in a fire in all of their games for all I care. No ****ing way a KU fan would ever root for an MU national title even when they were in the Big 12 and vice versa. That's just weird TrueFan type shit.

Congrats to OU and their Fans! That was awesome, and **** the SEC

Yep. They were up his ass all night, and he was seeing ghosts when they weren't.

That's pathetic

I find that number hard to believe. I highly doubt 5% of MU fans were ever cheering on KU in those National Title basketball games.

Probably a bit high, but SEC fans are so incestuous, it's disgusting

Agreed. At one point I heard the announcers say that Bama had given up 10 sacks all year, and gave up 7 last night. That's just ****ing absurd.

But the thing that stood out to me was half of OUs line was out. They had a dude that had NEVER PLAYED TACKLE before playing right tackle, and Knight didn't get his soul raped. Bama's defense vs 3 starters out? That's the shit nightmares are made of. It should have never been a game. OU should have had to forfiet before the end of the first quarter because everybody OU had that could take a snap had died.

Interestingly enough, OU has the 40th ranked team in PPG. And they put up 45 against what everybody thought was a national title team with a kick ass defense. In fact, the only other teams they put up 45 or more on were the powerhouses of Tulsa and Iowa State.

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This game is a total mindboogling mystery to me.

wtf? I now understand why people have laughed at the SEC for the past 100 year but give me a break.

We get it that the South cares about college sports about 1000x times more than anyone else in the country but isn't there anything else to do down there?