The Royals looked tired and bored. Zero fire or passion.

A sweep wouldn't be the least bit surprising.

Kazmir is a lefty, so any point you are trying to make is irrelevant. The Royals have been awful vs. lefties.

What are you doing? Yelling profanities and throwing shit around the house? If getting upset over a game traumatizes your kids then uh. I don't know what to say.

If the Royals win tomorrow, then I still like our chances to take the series. If we lose tomorrow, it's over.

It's only game 1 but damn it feels like we are down by a lot more. Cueto, please for the love of all things Royally beautiful, be at your best tomorrow!

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think Kazmir sucks to lately, but I like him to pitch less shitty than Johnny

Yep. Cueto must come through and Hos, Cain and Moose must wake the **** up...If Royals go out in first round, **** baseball for me for a LOONNNNG time.

No, you butt****ing moron

Man I guess I don't need to watch the rest of this series. If you guys know this much you should be breaking Vegas. Their backs are against the wall, and It's possible we get swept, but come the **** on. It's one game.

I will say this, however. Cueto is pitching for a lot of coin tomorrow. Dude got bashed on a cowardly lion level when he fell apart in his last playoff start. He shits himself tomorrow and it will literally cost him tens of millions

Good answer.

Because they've played so well the past six weeks against inferior teams?

Well then why even bother to participate? Why are you even here? It's over. You should probably go fishing. Because a two year sample size over 20 years of division series means it's over. You love stats but have almost no idea how to use them in an argument intelligently.

You can just go to the year before, 2012... two teams lost game of the LDS 1 at home and won the series in 5. And that was when the team with HFA got the final three games at home and played game 5 on the road. Will the Royals do that? Who the heck knows. But it's not like it's impossible. Down 2-0? Now yeah that's tough.

We bought tickets and we're staying for Game #2 tomorrow afternoon. All in, bitches!

Cueto gets us even tomorrow. ChiTown, OUT!

He might, but this is really not based in any kind of reality other than just trying to emulate Pete.

I get it.

It was with the division wrapped up resting players. That has nothing to do with tonight, but every game is it's own story. This team showed a lot of character last year and there's no reason why they can't find it again.

I will say in baseball it does seem like the team with home field in a 5 game is almost at an advantage. You take 1 of the 2 and you are rolling. It also seems to help when you have to fight til the end. Tomorrow is the season. Hopefully Cueto goes and gets it.

Lol. Now, that was funny.

Question? You concerned about the Astros NOW? Cuz last night you were talking all kinds of nonsense.

Hopefully our offense wakes the **** up.

If prime Roy Halladay can lose a winner-take-all game at home, and Kershaw can get his teeth kicked in three playoff starts in a row, then Dallas Keuchel can lose at that shithole abomination of a stadium.

We are 0-4 all time losing game 1 of an LDS

Wtf are you talking about?

I think a good start would be banning Pete and prison bitch from all game threads. I really don't believe they even like the Royals or life for that matter.

They won their last 5 games, outscoring their opponents 25-10, and the Twins were fighting for their playoff lives. They were on a nice streak entering the playoffs.

This forum is a crackup.

The majority were to proclaim the Alex Smith era over before it began, only see him lead the Chiefs to a 9-0 start, an 11-5 record and a playoff berth his first season.

Yet Johnny Cueto still has a chance and Zobrist is really special, despite the 10-17 record in September and a drab playoff game.

This forum hasn't just jumped the shark, it's jumped ten megalodon's

They struck out 14x. And won

Zobrist is a utility player and as Hamas said he was better here than in Oakland.

Cueto had pretty much the best culmative stats over the last 6 years. It's not crazy to think he could find his stuff for a game. He hasn't even faced Houston.

Alex Smith has always been an average to below average QB. I'm sorry but your comparison isn't in the same ballpark.

I knew before this series even began that the Astros could beat us. They owned us in the regular season. I don't even know what you're talking about with ChiTown, but the fact is, while the World Series is the ultimate goal, the playoffs are just a crap-shoot. Get hot, get lucky, that's how you win and whether we get swept or whatever doesn't change how I feel about how good this Royals team is at all.

That's what they do. Look at your graphs again.

I am most disappointed in how we didn't really put up a fight, how we let them jump out to a lead, and that we conceded the second run in the first inning. That makes me very mad.

I don't think you understand how small of a sample size 27 baseball games is.

Here are two batters' splits in April 2006. Both were 26 years old:

Player A: 10 Homers, .326/.404/.783
Player B: 5 homers, .306/.388/.494

Player A hit 8 more homers, for the rest of his career.
Player B hit 53 more homers...that season.

A is Chris Shelton
B is Ryan Howard in his MVP year

I get it.

But I also realize that what happens in a month to my children is astronomical when compared to a dopey baseball team.

The bottom line is that I'm tired of sports and tired of wasting time on things that are no longer relevant to my life.

The Chiefs have been shit for the past 44 years of my life. The Royals were shit for 29 of the past 30 years of my life.

It's time to refocus and put that energy elsewhere.

I don't think most of you are old enough to remember. The only time the Royals won a World Series they were down 3-1 twice. They weren't exactly successful against Dave Steib or John Tudor either and the offense looked like dogshit. I know this was mentioned the other night as well. Its sports folks. That's why we watch it. I don't think I need a break from sports as much as a break from sports talk and message boards :)

You're right, and it's probably good advice. Not always easy to follow, though.

Plus, the Astros were 11-16 in September. They are 40-42 since July 1st.

I totally agree we may not win, that's baseball. But I really don't understand how everyone, not just here but on other boards and Twitter... are sitting here arguing that the Royals are losing because they let up in September and the Astros didn't. That's not true at all. There's just no basis in reality for that. They just beat us tonight. It has nothing to do with September or previous years' playoff series or any of that voodoo. You can even argue they came into the playoffs colder than almost anyone.

Devoting more time to your kids is never a bad thing regardless of the reasons.

:clap:

Many Jays fans are complaining right now that the Jays lost today because the team let up in the last 5 games of the season after clinching. Such bitching after postseason losses is rarely rational.

It's not something they chose to do it just happens when you stop playing with a sense of urgency. You see it happen in every sport almost every year. It's not an easy thing to manage. There is a huge trend of wild card teams scraping to the end and riding that wave into the playoffs. The Astros didn't play well the last month, but they have had to continue to play with a sense of urgency. It's also not a great matchup for the Royals, and most of us knew that. We can still get hot starting tomorrow and win the series. The sky isn't falling yet.

This nails it lol

My graphs said they were 33-48 on the road, 2nd worst mark for any playoff team ever

Your graph probably still has them winning in spite of that tomorrow because that's your gimmick.

If Cueto wins tomorrow, Claynus will eat a bug

Besides the last month we have one of the best pitchers in baseball leading us tomorrow, an offense that went to game 7 of the World Series and the best bullpen in MLB. Jesus Christ this board is full of whining bitches. Did you all expect a sweep to the end? Lmfao

We seemed to have strayed away from our identity that had us crushing souls in last year's postseason and the beginning of this regular season. We're not a small ball team anymore. I haven't seen us try to play that way in a long time.

It seems to be an identity thing that propelled us forward, and somewhere along the way we lost it. That's way more worrying than the Royals not finishing the month of September (which is debatable)

It's 1 game. If the Royals lose tomorrow then you can start to worry.

I am worried with Cueto on the mound.

You look fantastic for your age. No homo.

When you act like Zobrist hasn't been everything that was hoped for when they traded for him, you look like you don't know baseball very well.

Zobrist has performed for KC like the consistent 5 WAR player he has been over the past several years. He has been every bit as good as could be reasonably hoped he would be.

Ben Zobrist is very, very good at baseball. Comparing him to Alex Smith is ridiculous.

Johnny Cueto has been a disappointment , but he had what amounted to one bad half of football after the trade. Comparing him to Alex Smith is also ridiculous.

alex smith has NEVER come close to being as elite as those guys have been in the past, either.

I've noticed that as well. I thought that maybe Ned was just allowing his players to "play" in September and that he'd get back to it in October but tonight proved otherwise. The Royals just aren't manufacturing runs anymore.

I truly believe that everyone involved is just tired, mentally and physically.

Everything is lining up so perfectly for us to make a run at the World Series again. Got injuries today on the Jays and Rangers, but all we have in our way is this annoying ass Astros team that was a joke up until they beat the Yankees.

Yay, Zobrist helped the Royals to a 10-17 record in September. I'm sure they would have been 5-22 without him, amirite?

Some of you guys rely on stats way too much instead of using your eyes.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, he was a rental. Double yay.

They traded for Zobrist in July. I hope they make an effort to re-sign him. He's an on base machine up there at the plate and he gives the team so much flexibility. There aren't many guys like him out there anymore.

If you have watched Ben Zobrist play, and can't see the value he has added, I think I'm going to stop trying to have any baseball conversations with you, because the guy is a very good player who helps you win in all phases of the game.

What was the Royals record after acquiring Zobrist? They were great in August and had five wins to close out the season in October.

The guy is Alex Gordon at the plate, with the ability to play a good 2B or RF. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

It's a weird - and incorrect - area to cast anger.

You want to complain about Cueto, go ahead. He has been a disappointment. But Zobrist has been nothing but a positive.

And this where is becomes "weird" talking to "scouts", which I do know in Los Angeles.

Is it your opinion that without Zobrist, the Royals would have lost the Central? Was it worth giving up pitchers on a pitching starved team?

In August, all of the guys I know said "Yes". I disagreed. I've yet to hear back from anyone tonight but I'll be curious about their responses.

I know that you justified both trades, which is fine. I was on the other side of the fence. No one will know for certain until next year and the coming years but IMO, the trades were fruitless from the beginning.

Now, the Royals still have an opportunity to prove me wrong (and I hope they do) but as of today, I think the organization will regret giving up five pitchers for two rentals that led them no where.

What major pitching did we give up? We gave up one blue chip propsect in Manea. Finnegan was a reliever. The other two AAAA guys in our organization and a throw in.

Great, you don't need to explain yourself to us. Now go **** off and don't come back.

I didn't say "Major", just five pitchers.

At this point, I'd rather have their potential than Cueto, which is a pretty odd statement to make prior to the trade.

Go find your biggest dildo and, well, you know the rest.

I'll tell you what: You put up a poll to vote us both off the island.

You win, I won't come back, ever. I win, you're wanking everyday to DC.

Deal?

Dane just put Cosmo on the spot.

The 3 we gave up were essentially nothing, it's a trade any contending team makes. The Cardinals gave up a similar prospect that we gave up for Zobrist for a total JAG. We got solid WAR out of the deal especially with Gordon and Infante out. Hell Zobrist got on base tonight, did what they brought him in to do.

Why the **** are you whining and explaining this to everyone? Stop posting and get on with your life. JFC...douche bag attention whore

I didn't get to see this game thanks to not being on network TV. What went wrong?

Why are you posting? All that soul searching and you're still here.

Avoidance?

Typical.

Pretty much this:

http://i.imgur.com/86Fax37.gif

minus this:

http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-con...05/kendrys.jpg

It's 11:15, twat. Everyone else is in bed.

I'm working.

Deal?

Oh yes, totally. He tells us about his revelation that he's wasting his time with all this...followed by 20 more posts.

He was amazing tonight

You can't even ****ing read.

I didn't say I was wasting time at Chiefsplanet, you ****ing moron, I said I was wasting time watching 3+ hour games when I knew the outcome was obvious.

You're even dumber in this forum than in DC.

Go to the market and buy a Massengil douche to clear your mind, twat.

Your job is posting on CP? Or being a pretentious douche bag? You are excelling at both.

I was there and despite how I know nothing about baseball, it was awesome.


When he hit the second homer, it was ****ing crazy.

I'd also like to say the second pitcher the Royal brought out (Young??) was on fire for a while. Absolutely wicked for like 2-3 innings.

...the guy who just realized tonight that his kids are more important than watching sports. :clap:
Douche Bag AND Father of the Year

You both should walk away. IMO. Make some music, go to sleep, troll libs in DC, scrub your heals, whatever.

****Official Houston Astros @ Kansas City Royals ALDS Game 1 Thread****
 

Could they have won the Central without Zobrist? Probably. But that move was never about winning the Central. It was about making the team stronger for the postseason.

He has played to or above expectations. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay in KC on a 3-4 year deal after the season is over, which would take some sting out of trading away pieces for him.

The Royals made both of those moves without trading the two top SP prospects in the organization's mind (I am a big Manaea believer, so I might disagree with those rankings).

Manaea is the only potential trouble spot out of those guys, IMO.

Finnegan is a short reliever who value took a big step back this year and who let his body get away from him at age 22. Lamb looks like a AAAA guy at this point, as he got shelled in Cincinnati after getting called up. Aaron Brooks is JaG. Cody Reed also has potential, but still is a long way away from the majors.

If this team doesn't make a deep postseason run, it will not be because Zobrist underperformed. It MIGHT be because Cueto didn't.

But still... Maligning the Zobrist trade is silly. If the Cueto trade had worked out as well as the Zobrist trade did, KC likely would have put up a 2-1 win tonight, with Cueto throwing 6-7 innings of shutout baseball.

Zobrist has been nothing but solid. If you were expecting a star then that might be where you are mistaken.

Cueto has been a dissapointment, but he has a chance to right that now. 6 years of being a great pitcher tells me it's not impossible.

We definately have an uphill battle now, but the knee jerk reactions around here are hilarious.

We hit a lot of balls hard right at people last night. Baseball is a really random game.

It's good to know that this kind of reerunation is not limited to fans on CP.