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gold_and_red 01-14-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14037819)
Pats fan here

Tom did not play well vs BUF the second time. 1st time he owned them. With that said he had been dealing with a sprained MCL from the TN game to the Pitt loss. Hes feeling good now.

The book on Tom is simple.

-Tight man coverage on the outside.
-Flood the middle of the field
-Get pressure up the middle (DT or disguised blitz)

Bills have a rock-solid secondary and fast LBs.

I think your D is better than the #s but not sure you have BUFs personnel?

Thank you for bringing up the Bills, a primetime road game in a rabid stadium. Didn't the Pats run the ball at will? Yet I remember a close game deep into the 4th quarter. Did the fast LBs of the Bills take away the pass catching RBs? I feel that is the biggest mismatch in NE's favor more so than running the ball.

Jerm 01-14-2019 01:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">National Weather Service is projecting an arctic blast to settle over Kansas City for Sunday&#39;s AFC Championship Game vs Patriots, reports the <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AP_NFL</a> . Temperatures at kickoff could range from 10 degrees to well below zero, making it the coldest game in Arrowhead Stadium history.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1084899789454671874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Rain Man 01-14-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14037880)
I expect BB to our Gilmore on Watkins, double Kelce, and take his chances with Hill.

If he did that, we would only see smoke on the horizon from Tyreek burning up the grass.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14037869)
Thank you. Sounds plausible. Although, Brady's QB rating in the first game was only 85.8. Not stellar by his standards. He had one TD and one INT. Pats scored 24 pts & limited an anemic Bills' offense to 12 pts.

We shoulda had a lot more points in the first meeting. That pick wasn't totally his fault but it should have been a better throw no question. He played better than his rating. Bills have a very good pass D. Can't really explain his less-than-Tom- performance beyond that.

The key for you guys is Chris Jones. Knowing when to pin his ears back and when to see the draw. He scares the crap out of me

Frosty 01-14-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14037850)
Being from Colorado, I'm never prepared for the cold weather in humid places. Our cold weather is a playful friendly nip from Jack Frost, but in contrast to your theory I think it's because our dry, lighter air doesn't carry moisture. I go other places now and it's like getting attacked by that yeti in the Frosty the Snowman cartoon. The cold sinks into my bones. 20 degrees here is jacket weather, and 20 degrees anywhere in the midwest or northeast is parka weather with a ski mask.

The coldest I have ever been was when it was in the mid-20's when I was in Georgia for AIT. Humidity + cold means it just worms into you no matter what. Where I live now, it isn't unusual to get down to -10° to -20°F for a few days in the winter. It's much, much drier so while it is unpleasant, it isn't nearly as bad.

RunKC 01-14-2019 01:52 PM

It’s annoying that the pundits are saying that the weather is against us. They must have forgotten Mahomes first start in 17 degree weather at Mile High when he was throwing lasers.

This game will be easier for Pat, not harder. There won’t be wet or windy conditions.

JimNasium 01-14-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14037851)
By far...

The game plan vs the Chiefs is the same vs the Chargers.

-Get the ball out in < 2.3 seconds
-Run, run and run some more
-Lots of James White
-Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett bunch formations with a crap-ton of option routes based on the coverage.

I just watched our game against the Colts. Mahomes relied almost exclusively on quick passes underneathe the coverage and in the seams. Williams is easily as effective as Michel. Our receiving corp is superior to yours. This is going to be a long game for your squad I’m afraid.

kcpasco 01-14-2019 01:56 PM

Edelman worries me. We really don’t have any answers for that shifty bastard.

JimNasium 01-14-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14037898)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">National Weather Service is projecting an arctic blast to settle over Kansas City for Sunday&#39;s AFC Championship Game vs Patriots, reports the <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AP_NFL</a> . Temperatures at kickoff could range from 10 degrees to well below zero, making it the coldest game in Arrowhead Stadium history.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1084899789454671874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The temperature gradient map a almost resembled a purple arrowhead centered over KC. Yet another sign from the football gods.

RollChiefsRoll 01-14-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14037898)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">National Weather Service is projecting an arctic blast to settle over Kansas City for Sunday&#39;s AFC Championship Game vs Patriots, reports the <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AP_NFL</a> . Temperatures at kickoff could range from 10 degrees to well below zero, making it the coldest game in Arrowhead Stadium history.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1084899789454671874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Bring it on.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 14037893)
Thank you for bringing up the Bills, a primetime road game in a rabid stadium. Didn't the Pats run the ball at will? Yet I remember a close game deep into the 4th quarter. Did the fast LBs of the Bills take away the pass catching RBs? I feel that is the biggest mismatch in NE's favor more so than running the ball.

1st meeting Sony didn't play and they protected Gronk (now they just use him to block)

2nd meeting Sony and the running game did whatever they wanted.

IMO both games the Pats pretty much controlled. I wasn't really all that stressed about them. BUF can be a pain in the ass.

Bills LBs have speed but not stout.

Keep in mind this is a different Pats team. They've spent all year (and the offseason) to develop the running game and it's paying off.

If I were you guys I'd load 6-7 in the box and focus on Sony. Blitz every now and then and double White every snap. Bracket Edelman.

Let Hogan and Dorsett prove they can beat you. They are average.

If we had 2014 Gronk it's a different game but he doesn't have the quickness out of his breaks anymore and takes him a while to build up speed. You can handle him with single coverage short.

eDave 01-14-2019 02:02 PM

Whitlock is comparing Brady with Mohamed Ali.

Chiefspants 01-14-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14037941)
1st meeting Sony didn't play and they protected Gronk (now they just use him to block)

2nd meeting Sony and the running game did whatever they wanted.

IMO both games the Pats pretty much controlled. I wasn't really all that stressed about them. BUF can be a pain in the ass.

Bills LBs have speed but not stout.

Keep in mind this is a different Pats team. They've spent all year (and the offseason) to develop the running game and it's paying off.

If I were you guys I'd load 6-7 in the box and focus on Sony. Blitz every now and then and double White every snap. Bracket Edelman.

Let Hogan and Dorsett prove they can beat you. They are average.

If we had 2014 Gronk it's a different game but he doesn't have the quickness out of his breaks anymore and takes him a while to build up speed. You can handle him with single coverage short.

You should stay around whatever the results might be of the game Sunday. We value good sports talk, even from rivals.

dannybcaitlyn 01-14-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14037927)
Edelman worries me. We really don’t have any answers for that shifty bastard.

I thought Fuller was the best slot corner in the league.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-14-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14037927)
Edelman worries me. We really don’t have any answers for that shifty bastard.

Kendall Fuller says 'Hi'.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-14-2019 02:07 PM

Edelman will get his, most likely. But he's not gonna blow us up with Fuller in the slot either.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 14037914)
I just watched our game against the Colts. Mahomes relied almost exclusively on quick passes underneathe the coverage and in the seams. Williams is easily as effective as Michel. Our receiving corp is superior to yours. This is going to be a long game for your squad I’m afraid.

We'll see. I think it's gonna be tight.

BleedingRed 01-14-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14037976)
We'll see. I think it's gonna be tight.

Maybe,

I see more of a rigid game from the Patriots when things don't come easy at first.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 14037964)
I thought Fuller was the best slot corner in the league.

Hes up there no question.

Jules isn't just a slot receiver. They line him up all over.

With Fuller's size you are better off having him shadow white when he is in the slot or in motion.

ToxSocks 01-14-2019 02:14 PM

Brady flinches with the slightest bit of pressure these days.

The Chargers gameplan vs the Pats was as bad as they come. No inside pressure and all zone coverage. The Chargers took NOTHING away and thought they could just come in and play their scheme and be fine.

The few times Bosa actually got a sniff of pressure Brady checked it down almost instantly. Brady does not want to be hit. At all. It was clear as day yesterday.

Now people who don't ACTUALLY watch the game think the Pats will come in here and do the same to the Chiefs.

This game won't look anything remotely close to what we watched yesterday.

The Franchise 01-14-2019 02:17 PM

Almost to 1000 posts and it's only Monday. ****.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14037984)
Maybe,

I see more of a rigid game from the Patriots when things don't come easy at first.

From the NEP I can guarantee a conservative gameplan on offense and defense in the first half. Thats what they always do.

ToxSocks 01-14-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14037971)
Edelman will get his, most likely. But he's not gonna blow us up with Fuller in the slot either.

It's important that Sutton uses our LB's to pressure and not play coverage. If our guys get beat in man, then so be it. Because you're not going to beat him with zone. Man coverage with some double coverage on edelman is our best shot. Jones, Houston and Ford have to get home.

That Pats are fantastic at creating and identifying mismatches. If you put Houston/Ford into coverage you can guaran-damn-tee that they will find a way to get those guys covering a WR.

I looked back at the game earlier this year and Sutton was still using his gay ass 3 man rush.

They need to use the game plan they used against Luck. Same plan they used against Rivers too in our loss to SD.

gold_and_red 01-14-2019 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038021)
From the NEP I can guarantee a conservative gameplan on offense and defense in the first half. Thats what they always do.

Agreed. Keep it close deep into the 4th and let Brady pull out some magic.

007 01-14-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14038013)
Almost to 1000 posts and it's only Monday. ****.

This will be the biggest thread in chiefsplanet history. At least for two weeks. ;)

The Franchise 01-14-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14037971)
Edelman will get his, most likely. But he's not gonna blow us up with Fuller in the slot either.

If anybody is going to "get his" it's going to be White out of the backfield. He just had 15 receptions against the Chargers. We have to shut that shit down.

Sassy Squatch 01-14-2019 02:24 PM

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OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14038046)
Have you tried ticketsforless.com? They have no fees. I use them exclusively now. They also currently have a promo code AFCCHAMPIONSHIP that knocks $15-20 off the total. I got 2 tickets in upper level, 40-yard line, row 35, for $299 each. That was the best deal I've been able to find.

LMAO

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 14038036)
Agreed. Keep it close deep into the 4th and let Brady pull out some magic.

Exactly. BBs philosophy is not lose the game early.

Hell thats why he only allowed ATL to score 28 and not 35. :-)

Rasputin 01-14-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14038034)
It's important that Sutton uses our LB's to pressure and not play coverage. If our guys get beat in man, then so be it. Because you're not going to beat him with zone. Man coverage with some double coverage on edelman is our best shot. Jones, Houston and Ford have to get home.

That Pats are fantastic at creating and identifying mismatches. If you put Houston/Ford into coverage you can guaran-damn-tee that they will find a way to get those guys covering a WR.

I looked back at the game earlier this year and Sutton was still using his gay ass 3 man rush.

They need to use the game plan they used against Luck. Same plan they used against Rivers too in our loss to SD.

I'm preaching Justin Houston is going beast. He is revived and hungry for flesh quarterback flesh. Dee Ford is hungry too. This D line is going put the pressure and like they did against the Colts penetrate that offensive line. All we need to do is put Brady in third and long situations and feast. Not let him get comfortable in the pocket where he is a statue in his golden years.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14038034)
It's important that Sutton uses our LB's to pressure and not play coverage. If our guys get beat in man, then so be it. Because you're not going to beat him with zone. Man coverage with some double coverage on edelman is our best shot. Jones, Houston and Ford have to get home.

That Pats are fantastic at creating and identifying mismatches. If you put Houston/Ford into coverage you can guaran-damn-tee that they will find a way to get those guys covering a WR.

I looked back at the game earlier this year and Sutton was still using his gay ass 3 man rush.

They need to use the game plan they used against Luck. Same plan they used against Rivers too in our loss to SD.

Yep. If y'all play zone the whole time you will die a slow death and you have enough talent in the secondary to play man. Only Edelman and Dorsett can beat man coverage. Everyone else you can go 1:1 with.

gold_and_red 01-14-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038053)
Exactly. BBs philosophy is not lose the game early.

Hell thats why he only allowed ATL to score 28 and not 35. :-)

Honestly this is the one scenario that scares me the most. If the game is tied or KC is up by 3-6 points with 4 minutes remaining. Brady is a master at it backed by mountains of experience, this young Chiefs team not so much. I am still stunned how they erupted in the 4th quarter last season in week 1 with Alex Smith of all QBs. But this is a SB berth on the line, totally different stakes.

T-post Tom 01-14-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14037900)
We shoulda had a lot more points in the first meeting. That pick wasn't totally his fault but it should have been a better throw no question. He played better than his rating. Bills have a very good pass D. Can't really explain his less-than-Tom- performance beyond that.

The key for you guys is Chris Jones. Knowing when to pin his ears back and when to see the draw. He scares the crap out of me

Jones is scary indeed. Especially when running a 40 yd dash. :) It's gonna be cold. If Jones, Houston and Ford hit Brady often, it'll be a rough day for him and the Pats.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14038083)
Jones is scary indeed. Especially when running a 40 yd dash. :) It's gonna be cold. If Jones, Houston and Ford hit Brady often, it'll be a rough day for him and the Pats.

yea but hes so quick off the ball. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

notorious 01-14-2019 02:41 PM

It’s always came down to pressuring Brady up the middle. Denver was great at it every time they played NE at home.

Everything else is moot, IMO.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gold_and_red (Post 14038071)
Honestly this is the one scenario that scares me the most. If the game is tied or KC is up by 3-6 points with 4 minutes remaining. Brady is a master at it backed by mountains of experience, this young Chiefs team not so much. I am still stunned how they erupted in the 4th quarter last season in week 1 with Alex Smith of all QBs. But this is a SB berth on the line, totally different stakes.

Hell, if its the 4th qtr and the Pats are up 28-24 I'm just as scared Mahomes has the ball. That kid is incredible.

T-post Tom 01-14-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038096)
yea but hes so quick of the ball. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

40 yd dash reference is probably obscure for non-Chiefs fans...


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eDave 01-14-2019 02:45 PM

LMAO

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14038123)
40 yd dash reference is probably obscure for non-Chiefs fans...


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OMG. Just slightly embarrassing....

The Franchise 01-14-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038152)
OMG. Just slightly embarrassing....

Not really embarrassing when you have a third arm between your legs.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14038157)
Not really embarrassing when you have a third arm between your legs.

Quite true!

RaidersOftheCellar 01-14-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 14037560)
There's no telling the extent of the technology Belichik has installed in that stadium and field to gain an advantage. I imagine he has microphones imbedded in the field so someone can listen in to the opposing teams huddle and listen to the Oline protection calls at the line of scrimmage. An interesting tidbit came out last year during the coach hiring cycle nobody picked up on. It was said Matt Patricia was supposedly the only defensive coordinator in the league who knew every opposing offenses Oline protection rules. What's the likelihood he learned that all on his own from his own study? Maybe.

It's pretty clear that the Patriots ramped up the cheating to a ridiculous level, even by their own standards. The road team is who they are. 65-yr-old noodle arm with a broken-down TE and a porous defense. The home team is fake.

They will be exposed, and exposed badly. By a team/coach/venue that has exposed them badly before. And everyone will see it. It will be glorious.

EyePod 01-14-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14037828)
Well the good news for us is that pressure up the middle is literally the only thing this defense is good at.

We also pressure around the edge!

EyePod 01-14-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14038034)
It's important that Sutton uses our LB's to pressure and not play coverage. If our guys get beat in man, then so be it. Because you're not going to beat him with zone. Man coverage with some double coverage on edelman is our best shot. Jones, Houston and Ford have to get home.

That Pats are fantastic at creating and identifying mismatches. If you put Houston/Ford into coverage you can guaran-damn-tee that they will find a way to get those guys covering a WR.

I looked back at the game earlier this year and Sutton was still using his gay ass 3 man rush.

They need to use the game plan they used against Luck. Same plan they used against Rivers too in our loss to SD.

Is that leaving Gronk in single? Oof.

EyePod 01-14-2019 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 14038060)
I'm preaching Justin Houston is going beast. He is revived and hungry for flesh quarterback flesh. Dee Ford is hungry too. This D line is going put the pressure and like they did against the Colts penetrate that offensive line. All we need to do is put Brady in third and long situations and feast. Not let him get comfortable in the pocket where he is a statue in his golden years.

Dee Ford wants that payday and deserves it. He's gotten better every year.

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14038115)
It’s always came down to pressuring Brady up the middle. Denver was great at it every time they played NE at home.

Everything else is moot, IMO.

Agreed. With the quick passing game they have, you have to get pressure up the middle and make Brady move around.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 14038210)
Is that leaving Gronk in single? Oof.

You don't need to double Gronk anymore.

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 14038203)
We also pressure around the edge!

Tackling and tight coverage will just as if not more important that pressure. Brady gets rid of the ball so fast in that dink\dunk offense that you have to almost go Seattle v. Denver on them and make sure you hit them as soon as they catch the ball. Can't let them turn the 4 yard passes into 15 yards.

RunKC 01-14-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14038219)
Agreed. With the quick passing game they have, you have to get pressure up the middle and make Brady move around.

Be physical with Gronk too. Knock his ass on the ground like last time.

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pill 01-14-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14032443)
I can’t even explain this feeling.

Y’all realize that if we get that defense, or even close to it, for the next two games..... we’re very likely hoisting the Lombardi.

I am scared of absolutely no potential opponent. They should be scared of us.

if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-14-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

You’re joking right?

eDave 01-14-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

Dumb.

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:15 PM

I think our defense can take a few more chances too. We know our offense is going to keep us in any game. If giving up a few big plays means you plant Brady a hard a few times I am all for it.

Then again, Brady hates to hold the ball so the 3-3-5 defense may not be bad but they carved that up against the Chargers.

Naptown Chief 01-14-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

After a year everyone thought was one to rebuild and develop the younger guys on D, then solidify it with another draft and round of FA. Yeah.. They're firing Reid after the franchise's first home win in 25 years and only AFCCG in Arrowhead.

BleedingRed 01-14-2019 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14038258)
I think our defense can take a few more chances too. We know our offense is going to keep us in any game. If giving up a few big plays means you plant Brady a hard a few times I am all for it.

Then again, Brady hates to hold the ball so the 3-3-5 defense may not be bad but they carved that up against the Chargers.

Chargers played soft zone coverage, for what ever ****ing reason.

You do not play Soft Zone vs Brady, you play Man and Zone Blitz ONLY. Anything else is suicide

petegz28 01-14-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14038261)
Chargers played soft zone coverage, for what ever ****ing reason.

You do not play Soft Zone vs Brady, you play Man and Zone Blitz ONLY. Anything else is suicide

True. The fact is you aren't going to throw anything defensively out there that Brady hasn't seen. That is the advantage he has over Pat. It's like going against Peyton, you aren't going to fool him much if at all. You just have to go out there and flat out beat their ass straight up.

Naptown Chief 01-14-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

Why not swallow some pills. In fact, swallow every single one in your household. Perhaps borrow a bottle or 5 from your neighbor and swallow those too.

Just to be safe, go rub yourself against a tree in Magic Johnson's yard and follow all of this up by drinking 2 gallons of antifreeze

FloridaMan88 01-14-2019 03:18 PM

This article... CHILLS-inducing:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...beats-the-goat

Patrick Mahomes vs. Tom Brady: Why the kid beats the G.O.A.T.

By Adam Schein
NFL.com Columnist

Championship Sunday is set, and it's a gift from the sports gods.

The Los Angeles Rams are heading to the Superdome to take on the New Orleans Saints in the opener. Then the New England Patriots will visit Arrowhead to face the Kansas City Chiefs. We love offense, and we have the top four scoring attacks from the regular season in the NFL's final four. As a football fan, it doesn't get any juicier. Two high-powered attacks and sensational play-callers in the NFC. The greatest dynasty in sports history taking the show on the road to K.C. for the first-ever AFC title game in that football-rich city. Bill Belichick vs. Andy Reid. Wow.

But there's one storyline that is beyond sizzling. There's one matchup that takes the cake on Championship Sunday.

The G.O.A.T. vs. The Kid. The best to ever do it going against the best to do it this season. Tom Brady taking on Patrick Mahomes, with a trip to Atlanta on the line.

And wouldn't it be absolutely perfect and poetic for the 2018 campaign if Mahomes were to beat Brady and punch the Chiefs' ticket to Super Bowl LIII? Why would anyone put it past the MVP front-runner? I wouldn't. I won't.

Patrick Mahomes is beating Tom Brady. A passing of the torch, if you will.

Mahomes is truly a special talent, doing things that have never been done before. It's the no-look pass. It's the lefty throw. It's the shortstop-like delivery. It's the majestic bombs. It's the touch. It's spreading the ball around, exploiting his stars like Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce while making everyone else better. Patty Mahomes is John Elway meets Superman. Only better.


Mahomes' numbers in his first season as an NFL starter are freakishly amazing. He joined Peyton Manning in the ultra-exclusive 50-touchdown/5,000-yard club, guiding the Chiefs to a 12-4 record, an AFC West title and the top seed in the AFC playoffs. But plenty of folks questioned the Chiefs entering the postseason, given the franchise's playoff history, Andy Reid's January resume, the fact that Kansas City had appeared vulnerable down the stretch and that the Colts were the hottest team in football.

Then the Chiefs immediately jumped out to a 17-0 lead on Saturday and never looked back, cruising to a 31-13 win over Andrew Luck and Co. Mahomes put on another clinic, Kansas City's defense supplied its most impressive effort of the season and the Chiefs punched history in the mouth. Because of course they did. The past isn't prologue with these Chiefs. Not with No. 15 under center.

2018 is the season of Mahomes. There was laughter over the summer when I predicted across all media platforms that the second-year pro would dominate, calling him "a dark-horse MVP candidate" in this space. Who's laughing now? Mahomes is an unprecedented gift to football. On Friday, I picked the Chiefs to down the Colts on SiriusXM Radio and CBS Sports Network. Why stop now? Who wants to pick against MVPatty?

This AFC title bout is a rematch of a memorable "Sunday Night Football" game in Foxborough back in Week 6. The Pats led 24-9 at the half, but the Chiefs came storming back before eventually losing, 43-40, on Stephen Gostkowski's field goal as time expired. I talked to Mahomes a couple weeks after that game. While he was enthused by the way K.C. got into a groove in the second half, the 23-year-old signal-caller stressed the most important takeaway from the loss.

"I think the biggest thing is you can't make mistakes," Mahomes said in late October. "I know we made the mistakes and left points out there in the first half. When you play a team of that caliber, you play a team that's been on the big stage and that's gonna be in the playoffs and make a run at the Super Bowl, you can't make mistakes against them. And so, for us, I mean, if we wanna get to that stage, if we wanna get to the Super Bowl and we wanna do that stuff, we have to make sure that we're on top of everything from the get-go."

That's what the Chiefs did on Saturday, scoring on their first three possessions. And I expect them to come out firing again on Sunday, when the Pats hit Arrowhead. Bill Belichick is the best coach in sports history and a defensive mastermind. But it's Patty Mahomes. It's his time.

I've long argued that the Brady/Belichick Patriots are the best dynasty in sports history, considering the NFL's salary cap and free agency and a system brilliantly set up to foster worst-to-first jumps. The Patriots are playing in their eighth straight AFC Championship Game. I'm not sure there's a better hallmark of the greatness.


Brady has five rings and eight Super Bowl appearances. He owns the postseason. And now he's the self-designated underdog on Sunday? After New England's blowout win over the Chargers, Brady told CBS's Tracy Wolfson, "I know everyone thinks we suck and, you know, can't win any games. So we'll see." The best winner in NFL history playing the "nobody believes in us" card. Perfect.

I obviously don't think the Patriots suck. I just feel these Chiefs are better. And, unlike in Week 6, they're the home team. And suddenly, the side of the ball that doesn't feature Patrick Mahomes is on the warpath. Kansas City should be energized by how Chris Jones, Dee Ford and the defense played on Saturday. Chiefs DC Bob Sutton won't be passive like Chargers DC Gus Bradley inexplicably was.

Championship Sunday's games are going to be on fire. Points will prevail. And the season's most enticing star will provide another must-see chapter.

Under the watchful eye of Andy Reid, Mahomes has produced a season for the ages. A win over the greatest dynasty -- and greatest quarterback -- in NFL history to make the Super Bowl? Well, obviously.

BleedingRed 01-14-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14038263)
True. The fact is you aren't going to throw anything defensively out there that Brady hasn't seen. That is the advantage he has over Pat. It's like going against Peyton, you aren't going to fool him much if at all. You just have to go out there and flat out beat their ass straight up.

Exactly,

Not only that, but their scheme is full of nothing but option routes. Hence why you play Man to Man and Zone Blitz only!

Chargers are ****ING reeruned thinking that they could just drop into zone and hope 4 man front was going to do shit.

Stunt Houston to inside with Chris Jones on Zone Blitz with Ford going on the edge.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-14-2019 03:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Even with no past proof to reference, everyone in the Chiefs organization has said it ... No stage is too big for Patrick Mahomes. As each game passes, that statement appears to be confirmed. Now Mahomes one win away from the biggest stage in sports. <a href="https://t.co/umlVTkdslH">pic.twitter.com/umlVTkdslH</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1084916418607546369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My god! The Chiefs believe Mahomes is the best thing that has ever happened to this franchise!! Who do we thank?

pill 01-14-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 14038264)
Why not swallow some pills. In fact, swallow every single one in your household. Perhaps borrow a bottle or 5 from your neighbor and swallow those too.

Just to be safe, go rub yourself against a tree in Magic Johnson's yard and follow all of this up by drinking 2 gallons of antifreeze

little tense are you ..... hahahahaha

Stinger 01-14-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

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T-post Tom 01-14-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14038269)
This article... CHILLS-inducing:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...beats-the-goat

Patrick Mahomes vs. Tom Brady: Why the kid beats the G.O.A.T.

By Adam Schein
NFL.com Columnist

Championship Sunday is set, and it's a gift from the sports gods.

The Los Angeles Rams are heading to the Superdome to take on the New Orleans Saints in the opener. Then the New England Patriots will visit Arrowhead to face the Kansas City Chiefs. We love offense, and we have the top four scoring attacks from the regular season in the NFL's final four. As a football fan, it doesn't get any juicier. Two high-powered attacks and sensational play-callers in the NFC. The greatest dynasty in sports history taking the show on the road to K.C. for the first-ever AFC title game in that football-rich city. Bill Belichick vs. Andy Reid. Wow.

[B]But there's one storyline that is beyond sizzling. There's one matchup that takes the cake on Championship Sunday.

The G.O.A.T. vs. The Kid. The best to ever do it going against the best to do it this season. Tom Brady taking on Patrick Mahomes, with a trip to Atlanta on the line.

And wouldn't it be absolutely perfect and poetic for the 2018 campaign if Mahomes were to beat Brady and punch the Chiefs' ticket to Super Bowl LIII? Why would anyone put it past the MVP front-runner? I wouldn't. I won't.

Patrick Mahomes is beating Tom Brady. A passing of the torch, if you will....

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Marcellus 01-14-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pill (Post 14038245)
if Reid blows it , again, does he get fired ?

Rablerouser mult. Has to be.

TimBone 01-14-2019 03:40 PM

In for the mutha****in' win!

58-4ever 01-14-2019 04:14 PM

This is all icing for me... I hope the players don't feel the same. It's going to be bone wrenching cold, the kind of cold that people talk about for years...

gblowfish 01-14-2019 04:15 PM

This is the only thing that worries me:

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ReynardMuldrake 01-14-2019 04:15 PM

We are going to pry that torch out of Brady's cold, dead fingers.

BostonCheatriots 01-14-2019 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=gblowfish;14038463]This is the only thing that worries me:



Not in KC now if the game was in NE sure it worries me too..

Pats blew it ...they NEEDED THE #1 seed baaad..

TomBarndtsTwin 01-14-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14038463)
This is the only thing that worries me:

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Nah, it's all good. NFL and everyone else is tired of Tom and the Pats.

NFL has been promoting the **** out of Mahomes all year as the next big thing. They WANT him on the biggest stage at the Super Bowl. Either Rams vs. Chiefs rematch (highest rated game of the year) or Pat vs. Drew (MVP clash).


NFL and the refs won't be doing the Pats any favors this time. If anything, KC is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt on calls . . . .

Fightingirish595 01-14-2019 04:39 PM

Should be a great game Sunday. The pats will need to run the ball effectively and control that clock if they want to win. Can’t get behind early

KC Dan 01-14-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fightingirish595 (Post 14038520)
Should be a great game Saturday. The pats will need to run the ball effectively and control that clock if they want to win. Can’t get behind early

I'll allow the Pats to win on Saturday. Sunday is our day!

In58men 01-14-2019 04:41 PM

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RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14038493)
Nah, it's all good. NFL and everyone else is tired of Tom and the Pats.

NFL has been promoting the **** out of Mahomes all year as the next big thing. They WANT him on the biggest stage at the Super Bowl. Either Rams vs. Chiefs rematch (highest rated game of the year) or Pat vs. Drew (MVP clash).


NFL and the refs won't be doing the Pats any favors this time. If anything, KC is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt on calls . . . .

Patriots Fatigue has been around since 2004

B_Ambuehl 01-14-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14037573)
ROFL That makes sense to you? That somehow BB (or whoever) can listen in on the OLine protection calls and then get that info out to this players in time to effect a play?

Apparently the Patriots are REALLY deep in your head.

It's like the spygate stuff, use it for information for when you play a team the 2nd time around, or even the 2nd half of a football game.

I personally didn't think the spygate deal was any big deal. But it does show Belichik valued surveillance. We already know Belichik has something going on with the coach to QB communication system.

Doug Flutie, claimed that he uncovered something very interesting regarding Brady’s radio helmet during the 2005 season.

"He was amazed that the coaches kept right on speaking to Brady past the 15-second cutoff, right up until the snap. The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face.”

Ted Johnson claimed that an hour before game time, a list of the opposing team’s audibles — the signals a QB would use at the line of scrimmage just before a snap to change the play — would sometimes appear in his locker. He had no idea where the lists came from.

Look at the defensive ranking at home vs away. Then consider that Patricia, and only Patricia, being the 1 coordinator in the NFL who knew all the opposing offensive lines rules and protection calls, and it all adds up.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-14-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038535)
Patriots Fatigue has been around since 2004

Maybe.

But my point still stands.


In the game in New England earlier this year, Chiefs had 9 penalties called on them and New England had ZERO. And the Chiefs still only lost by 3 on a last second field goal.

Think that's likely to happen again this Sunday night in KC? Yeah, me neither.

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14038543)
Maybe.

But my point still stands.


In the game in New England earlier this year, Chiefs had 9 penalties called on them and New England had ZERO. And the Chiefs still only lost by 3 on a last second field goal.

Think that's likely to happen again this Sunday night in KC? Yeah, me neither.

Actually you guys were 5 for 58 and in that game were sloppy as hell.

If your point is if the NFL wanted the NEP out of the SB in theory we'd be penalized more, right?

TomBarndtsTwin 01-14-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038573)
Actually you guys were 5 for 58 and in that game were sloppy as hell.

If your point is if the NFL wanted the NEP out of the SB in theory we'd be penalized more, right?

We had 9 penalties called on us, only 5 were accepted.

My point was New England got a bit of home cooking in that game, on top of Pat not being a fully known quantity at that point.

Pats will not have a penalty disparity in their favor playing in Arrowhead this Sunday and they are going up against the soon to be named NFL MVP.


That won't exactly work in their favor . . . .

RobertWeathers 01-14-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14038589)
We had 9 penalties called on us, only 5 were accepted.

My point was New England got a bit of home cooking in that game, on top of Pat not being a fully known quantity at that point.

Pats will not have a penalty disparity in their favor playing in Arrowhead this Sunday and they are going up against the soon to be named NFL MVP.


That won't exactly work in their favor . . . .

I think if you go back and look at each penalty it wasn't because of home cooking. It was because KC wasn't ready to play the game. False starts, neutral zone, holding, etc.

Sorry but I'm not into conspiracy theories.

Play disciplined you often win. Play sloppy you often lose.

htismaqe 01-14-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14038616)
I think if you go back and look at each penalty it wasn't because of home cooking. It was because KC wasn't ready to play the game. False starts, neutral zone, holding, etc.

Sorry but I'm not into conspiracy theories.

Play disciplined you often win. Play sloppy you often lose.

It's not really a conspiracy. NFL refs favor the home team, it's just statistically true. It's not sinister or anything, it's probably just human nature, or incompetence, or a little of both.

But the stats don't lie - home teams get the calls about 60/40.


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