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penguinz 08-26-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16425157)
justin watson is going to be WR1 by end of the year

You really need to share the crack you have been smoking.

ToxSocks 08-26-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16429905)
I hate to be a negative Nancy but this sure sounds to me like the team is hedging against him missing more games because of "soreness".

That's how i read it.

Shag 08-26-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16429905)
I hate to be a negative Nancy but this sure sounds to me like the team is hedging against him missing more games because of "soreness".

I hadn't really considered that, but if that's the case, not a good look for JuJu. On the flipside, would he really need this kind of incentive to realize he needs to have a big year for his own future earnings?

Wallcrawler 08-26-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16429935)
Incentive for him to play through the soreness or whatever's going on with his knee?

Ah yes. More money. The only known cure for hobo spirit.

staylor26 08-26-2022 04:34 PM

I find it hard to beleive that JuJu needs any more motivation to play every game when he's in his 2nd consecutive contract year, and probably his last real opportunity to earn a big contract.

poolboy 08-26-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16430946)
Ah yes. More money. The only known cure for hobo spirit.

:clap:

Halfcan 08-26-2022 10:13 PM

Ju Ju was catching passes from Mahomes before the game- he fine!

Hammock Parties 08-29-2022 08:17 PM

heard on radio today that juju still isn't 100%

Stewie 08-29-2022 08:20 PM

Meh. No game for several days.

BWillie 08-29-2022 11:02 PM

If he can't go I guess we need to scoop some broke dick like Cole Beasley

htismaqe 08-30-2022 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16435233)
heard on radio today that juju still isn't 100%

Unsubstantiated rumor.

Abba-Dabba 09-16-2022 07:12 PM

Gameday routine

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Titty Meat 09-16-2022 07:17 PM

San Diego has a good defense Staley is one of the better defensive guys in the league. They shut Kelce down too

Jewish Rabbi 09-16-2022 07:20 PM

This dude ****in suck or nah?

TwistedChief 09-16-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16471329)
This dude ****in suck or nah?

Nah. He's gonna be our leading receiver with over 1k yards this season.

Put some respect on his name.

smithandrew051 09-16-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16471329)
This dude ****in suck or nah?

I think he plays wide receiver for the KC Chiefs. Imo.

In58men 09-16-2022 07:39 PM

Chiefs wanted him last year and we got him this year, they obviously know he’s good lol.

BWillie 09-16-2022 08:08 PM

Skyy Moore dynasty cannot happen if he continues to get only 2 offensive snaps a game.

poolboy 09-16-2022 08:12 PM

JuJu is a brokedick so far

Skyy God 09-16-2022 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16471379)
JuJu is a brokedick so far

He’s on pace for 800 yards, hoss.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-16-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16471322)
San Diego has a good defense Staley is one of the better defensive guys in the league. They shut Kelce down too

Gotta let you in on a secret, Tits. They left Sandy Eggo years ago.

Abba-Dabba 09-16-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16471404)
Gotta let you in on a secret, Tits. They left Sandy Eggo years ago.

Last night I kept saying San Diego. My son kept reminding me they were from Las Vegas. I realized no one really gives a shit where they are from.

KC Hawks 09-16-2022 08:47 PM

I hope Skyy starts taking some of MVS's snaps.

poolboy 09-16-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16471384)
He’s on pace for 800 yards, hoss.

no he is not but I hope im wrong here

BWillie 09-16-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16471409)
I hope Skyy starts taking some of MVS's snaps.

I think he musta ****ed Gracie. And Mr Clark, I mean Hunt, is mad.

poolboy 09-16-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16471384)
He’s on pace for 800 yards, hoss.

45 yards a game with no td s will get you to 800, i guess Ben Chartright

Chief Pagan 09-16-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471378)
Skyy Moore dynasty cannot happen if he continues to get only 2 offensive snaps a game.

You know, it's almost like he is a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense.

Almost.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-16-2022 09:19 PM

Has Juju drawn any double teams in the first two games?

Jewish Rabbi 09-16-2022 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16471384)
He’s on pace for 800 yards, hoss.

Can you Belize it?

New World Order 09-16-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16471432)
Can you Belize it?

I definitely Belize it!

Abba-Dabba 09-16-2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16471428)
Has Juju drawn any double teams in the first two games?

Yes, but every receiver has.

The first week he was targeted 20% of the time. He had one more target than reception. This week he was targeted 8% and had 3 reception on 3 targets.

I think every thing is going exactly like Patrick said it was. Beyond Kelce, there is going to be a different guy every week. Seems like to me that Mahomes is not locking on any WR at the moment. That is a good thing IMO.

chiefzilla1501 09-17-2022 05:34 AM

Juju isn’t a wr1 nor should he be expected to be. He will be fine. But some other wr needs to step up. At this point Mecole is vulturing snaps from skyy moore. Moores success will feed into JuJus. If teams are gonna throw blitzes at us we need WRs who will punish with quick hitters. I’ve always seen juju as a guy who can kill you underneath but that becomes less useful if teams stopped respecting our deep pass.

YayMike 09-17-2022 06:23 AM

Game 1 was all man and lots of blitz. Patrick threw to the guys that beat their man.

Game 2 was mostly zone and little blitzing because SD front 4 we’re getting insane pressure, They boxed Kelce and juJu almost all the time. Hardman was clearly the plan this week. It’s all good

tmax63 09-17-2022 06:42 AM

Four receivers for the Chiefs had between 44 and 51 yards. That tells me PMII was throwing it to whoever was open and where he could get him the ball. Sucks for you fantasy players but it worked Thursday.

Chris Meck 09-17-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 16471633)
Four receivers for the Chiefs had between 44 and 51 yards. That tells me PMII was throwing it to whoever was open and where he could get him the ball. Sucks for you fantasy players but it worked Thursday.

Yep.

There is no 'WR1', there are 'WRs'. And sometimes, depending on the play, that might include the actual WRs, Kelce, Fortson, Gray, or CEH split either out wide or in the slot.

And on any given play, the match-up advantage will get the ball.

Depending on the opponent and their scheme, different skill-sets from the cast of receivers will prove more useful so their numbers will be higher in that game. Rinse and repeat all season long.

chiefzilla1501 09-17-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16471664)
Yep.

There is no 'WR1', there are 'WRs'. And sometimes, depending on the play, that might include the actual WRs, Kelce, Fortson, Gray, or CEH split either out wide or in the slot.

And on any given play, the match-up advantage will get the ball.

Depending on the opponent and their scheme, different skill-sets from the cast of receivers will prove more useful so their numbers will be higher in that game. Rinse and repeat all season long.

The problem is I think mvs and mecole bring similar things to the table. What we needed vs lac was skyy moore. A guy who can run sharp routes, then catch and run even without very much space. It doesn’t do is good to have 2 burners when your qb barely has time to get rid of the ball. I know Andy eases WRs along but in games like this he has got to get skyy moore involved. I hate agreeing with Richard Sherman but he’s absolutely right that the chargers played us as if they have zero respect for our WRs. It’s not so much about having a WR1 to laser in on, it’s about having some guy out of that group defenses will actually account for.

Red Dawg 09-17-2022 08:09 AM

You want the ball then get open. No more force feeding double coverage. This is Mahomes becoming great.

Sure-Oz 09-17-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471378)
Skyy Moore dynasty cannot happen if he continues to get only 2 offensive snaps a game.

Gonna guess Reid's offense is complicated and they arent fully comfortable rolling him out yet

Sure-Oz 09-17-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16471423)
You know, it's almost like he is a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense.

Almost.

This...

BWillie 09-17-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16471423)
You know, it's almost like he is a rookie WR in an Andy Reid offense.

Almost.

Juju and mvs and watson all rookies to andy reid offense. Did Watson even make it down to Mahomes place in Texas over the offseason?

BWillie 09-17-2022 09:05 AM

Last super bowl champ who didnt have a bonafide #1 wr? Its been a minute

Chargem 09-17-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16471722)
Gonna guess Reid's offense is complicated and they arent fully comfortable rolling him out yet

Rookie on a short week, no time to actually do a game plan. I guess that's why no Sky plays/reps.

JJSS had a pretty key block (so did Kelce) on the long CEH run in the 4th.

ThaVirus 09-17-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471733)
Last super bowl champ who didnt have a bonafide #1 wr? Its been a minute


Quite a few of those Patriots teams didn't have a star WR

BWillie 09-17-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16471734)
Rookie on a short week, no time to actually do a game plan. I guess that's why no Sky plays/reps.

JJSS had a pretty key block (so did Kelce) on the long CEH run in the 4th.

It doesn't really matter who is a rookie or not because they've all had the same reps with the new offense.

For some reason the coaching staff is not as high in skyy as many of we are. He looks the part for a great slot wr who can occasionally make then pay deep but hard to know what we have at this point.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-17-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471733)
Last super bowl champ who didnt have a bonafide #1 wr? Its been a minute

How many of the teams with a bonafide #1 WR have a Kelce?

FringeNC 09-17-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16471723)
This...

On the other hand, Tyreek Hill did have 61 receptions as a rookie despite being new to the WR position.

PHOG 09-17-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16471686)
You want the ball then get open. No more force feeding double coverage. This is Mahomes becoming greater.

FYP just a little.

TripleThreat 09-17-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471733)
Last super bowl champ who didnt have a bonafide #1 wr? Its been a minute

I mean, kelce could be argued to be that #1 WR and then some.

Hard to choose between kelce and jamar chase or kelce and Justin Jefferson when you get asked the question

BWillie 09-17-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16471760)
How many of the teams with a bonafide #1 WR have a Kelce?

Thats a good point. Chiefs definitely have that going for them similar to the Pats Gronk years.

Best22 09-17-2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16471760)
How many of the teams with a bonafide #1 WR have a Kelce?

2018 Patriots?

2016 Patriots didn’t even have Gronk for most of the year. He missed the SB

The last non-Patriots team (without an elite defense, so no Seattle) to win without a #1 WR is probably the 2012 Ravens. Anquan Boldin could be a beast though

arrowheadnation 10-24-2022 12:15 AM

Should we go ahead and extend him during the bye week?

Red Dawg 10-24-2022 03:50 AM

Offense is coming together. Our wr s are getting with the Mahomes program and he is trusting them more.

RunKC 10-24-2022 08:10 AM

Go ahead and extend this guy Veach. He’s the best big receiver we’ve had since Sammy Watkins. Just like Sammy he’s fast, strong and breaks tackles. But Juju isn’t a broke dick.

The MVS and Juju additions have paid serious dividends for us

JPH83 10-24-2022 08:14 AM

Looked really good. I've been sh***ing on him and thinking he's washed as much as anyone here so I'll happily take the lumps. If he keeps playing like this he'll have been a big success. If we can give Pat time he really is going to give these guys crazy numbers.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2022 08:44 AM

The last couple of weeks he's demonstrated the physicality people were wanting to see from him.

That early season pick where he didn't fight for the ball (Colts game-ender, IIRC) annoyed me quite a bit because dammit, that's why he's here...or so I thought.

But the last couple of weeks he's had catch and runs where he's powered through guys after he caught it. So maybe this isn't a contested catch thing where he's going to fight through contact for the football. Maybe it's a Sammy Watkins, YAC thing where we'll get him the ball quickly and with some room and then he fights through contact for additional yards.

That's probably the best way to utilize his strength. Not this 'he knows where the holes in the zone are' stuff or the 'he'll battle for the ball and be a 3rd down/red zone weapon' kind of Dwayne Bowe stuff.

But rather than he'll be a quasi-RB after the catch like Watkins was when he was healthy.

Hammock Parties 10-24-2022 08:51 AM

he's made several contested catches this year that i don't think tyreek brings in

Abba-Dabba 10-24-2022 10:46 AM

Re-sign that man!

ToxSocks 10-24-2022 10:55 AM

My posts appear to have motivated him.

BigCatDaddy 10-24-2022 11:02 AM

On top of the production, him and MVS have sold that KC is the place for WR's to go to rebuild value.

The Franchise 10-24-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16550484)
Go ahead and extend this guy Veach. He’s the best big receiver we’ve had since Sammy Watkins. Just like Sammy he’s fast, strong and breaks tackles. But Juju isn’t a broke dick.

The MVS and Juju additions have paid serious dividends for us

Extend Juju and let Hardman walk.

MVS
Juju
Moore
Watson

Draft another guy next year. Preferably someone who can return kicks/punts.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-24-2022 11:03 AM

Is re sign him during the bye week 5/90 seems about right

Mecca 10-24-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16550943)
Extend Juju and let Hardman walk.

MVS
Juju
Moore
Watson

Draft another guy next year. Preferably someone who can return kicks/punts.

Hardman is only coming back if he signs for nothing. JuJu may price himself out of coming back if he continues putting up numbers.

R Clark 10-24-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16471766)
Thats a good point. Chiefs definitely have that going for them similar to the Pats Gronk years.

Similar to the chiefs Gonzales years.

ToxSocks 10-24-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16550946)
JuJu may price himself out of coming back if he continues putting up numbers.

Seriously doubt that.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16550945)
Is re sign him during the bye week 5/90 seems about right

I wonder if he won't want to focus on more of a 2 year deal to try to hit FA again one more time before he gets to 30.

Because a 5 year deal is really just a 3 year deal with some chaff at the back end. So with that in place, he'd hit FA after his age 29 season and that is often a red flag number for some teams.

Mecca 10-24-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16550949)
Seriously doubt that.

I wouldn't be open to giving JuJu 14+ mill a year, he could probably get that on the market.

O.city 10-24-2022 11:11 AM

No way he's getting 14. Maybe 10.

ToxSocks 10-24-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16550958)
I wouldn't be open to giving JuJu 14+ mill a year, he could probably get that on the market.

I'm not convinced he will get 14M+

-King- 10-24-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16550975)
No way he's getting 14. Maybe 10.

If he comes out of the year with 1100-1200 yards he's going to get more than 10.

MVS is getting 10 now and Juju is better. He's getting at 12-16M.

O.city 10-24-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16551013)
If he comes out of the year with 1100-1200 yards he's going to get more than 10.

Take your comp pick and go find the next value vet FA WR looking to have a big year to cash in.

Mecca 10-24-2022 11:23 AM

He basically makes 10 right now...

RunKC 10-24-2022 11:32 AM

The elite guys after Tyreek and Adams got in the $24/25 million range.

Juju isn’t at that level but a bump up from $10 million seems fair. No problem with him getting $15 million avg.

He’s worth that IMO

Pitt Gorilla 10-30-2022 05:24 PM

After the SF game, they interviewed JuJu and he was, apparently, wearing a harness that I assume kept his shoulder stabilized. Anyone know if he was having shoulder issues?

thabear04 10-30-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16564819)
After the SF game, they interviewed JuJu and he was, apparently, wearing a harness that I assume kept his shoulder stabilized. Anyone know if he was having shoulder issues?

Saw a post he got like shocked therapy the next day.

Abba-Dabba 10-30-2022 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16564819)
After the SF game, they interviewed JuJu and he was, apparently, wearing a harness that I assume kept his shoulder stabilized. Anyone know if he was having shoulder issues?

He had a shoulder injury last year that required surgery. I would assume it is to help him not reinjure is again.

Abba-Dabba 10-30-2022 06:06 PM

As far as salary goes at his present pace, I could see Juju commanding in the 15-18m/yr range. The Chiefs were paying on average Hammy Watkins about 14 million per season for his time here.

If you aren't willing to pay Juju at least 1 million more per year than you did for Mr.PerpetuallyInjured for twice the production, we are in a world of hurt.

Chris Meck 10-30-2022 06:08 PM

You guys that don't think Juju is getting $14m per have not been paying attention.

Bowser 10-30-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16564930)
You guys that don't think Juju is getting $14m per have not been paying attention.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.0GMJ9T...id=ImgDet&rs=1

Balto 10-30-2022 06:26 PM

I’d wait till OBJ signs wherever before thinking of extending Juju

carcosa 10-30-2022 06:28 PM

I really want to re-sign Juju. Love his game here.


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