Why couldn't Lebron have came back a game early vs my favorite team OKC? Cost OKC a win. Thunder would have won if Lebron played. Sad.

LMAO

5 point favorites at home with LeBron. Lost by double digits. I think they only lost one game by double digits without him.

Damn shame he can't get any help from his teammates.

He comes back and wrecks their chemistry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">+4 in 30 minutes with LeBron<br>-14 in 18 minutes without LeBron<br><br>This is the 7th game this season in which the Lakers won the minutes that LeBron was on the court, but lost the game.</p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1640110498464006144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His teammates failed him again.

It always amazes me that every single time I click into this thread, outside of 2-hour stretches when conference finals/finals games are live, ya'll are talking about LeBron James.


And this is just my annual post to point that out.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Percentage of losses this season with a positive Plus/Minus:<br><br>Embiid: 9/21 losses (42.9%)<br> Jokic: 6/19 losses (31.6%)<br>LeBron: 7/24 losses (29.2%)<br> Tatum: 5/20 losses (25.0%)<br> Steph: 5/24 losses (20.8%)<br> Luka: 6/29 losses (20.7%)<br>Giannis: 3/15 losses (20.0%)</p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1640116453251641345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Poor Embiid. He knows how it feels.

Shocking, I say. Just a complete stunner.

Never EVER would've guessed that you and the Twitter Troll would've shown up and said that LeBron wasn't to blame!

You know what would be better than starting him? Trading him. Hey, maybe they should send him to Dallas so he can reunite with Kyrie!

I am so looking forward to being done with this guy. Please just retire already.

He wasn't. They were fine with him on the court and a disaster with him off the court. As usual.

A trade would be great, if only so LeBron could go somewhere where he can win a title again instead of being stuck with this dead end Lakers organization which mortgaged its future that he brought back briefly to relevance a few years ago with the title.

Sadly, he won't get traded.

But watching you twist yourself into knots to explain why he fails wherever he gets traded would be pretty damn entertaining.

You’ve achieved KnowMo level nonsense, congrats.

Unfortunately not. He'd have to specifically request it because the Lakers aren't letting him go by choice. They don't want to go back to what they were in the decade before LeBron got there.

Where's the lie?

7-3 in their last 10 without him. But, yeah total disaster without him.

In the 10 years before Lebron went to the Lakers, they had won two nba finals and made the western conference finals two other times.

I would suggest looking at what the Lakers did between 2011 and 2018. If they didn't have the worst record in the league during that period, it was close.

They were a total disaster today without him, which was what the post was referring to.

Lol Pat Bev embarrassing Lebron. This is why current players say no one is afraid of Lebron. No one would do that to MJ

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I personally know people that were scared of LeBron James... I know a bunch of people who were and are in fact terrified of LeBron James. I’ve seen it. At times I’ve had teammates that were terrified of LeBron James.&quot; <br><br>- Draymond Green <br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVolumeSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheVolumeSports</a> ) <a href="https://t.co/L4wY3lb2RS">pic.twitter.com/L4wY3lb2RS</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1639358156449931284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like I said - they've spent 20 years tightening up these arguments.

NOBODY is better at taking all the credit and deflecting all the blame than Lebron Stans. It's a high art when they really get going.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Old heads:<br><br>&quot;MJ played in the toughest era ever. Back when MEN WERE MEN, not soft like today&#39;s era.&quot;<br><br>Also old heads:<br><br>&quot;MJ&#39;s opponents would shit their diapers in fear when they saw him.&quot;<br><br>lmfaooo</p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1637832296702066689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andre Iguodala made some interesting hand gestures as Draymond Green called LeBron James over mid game… <br><br>When you see it… ���� <a href="https://t.co/8Y8sQJU0YE">pic.twitter.com/8Y8sQJU0YE</a></p>&mdash; NBA Buzz (@OfficialNBABuzz) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialNBABuzz/status/1582605687615787009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Almost anything Draymond says you can take with a grain of salt.

So they're good without him on the team, but fall apart when he's part of the team... and that would lead to a conclusion that who is the problem?

As with every team he's ever been on, they're good when he's on the court. Have been all season and were again today.

You said decade before LeBron joined so that's what I looked up.

If you want 2011 and 2018, I see a western conference finals appearance and a first round exit. Not much different than the first round exit and pandemic finals victory since lebron joined.

The Lakers will go on. And while they likely will have down years post lebron that is typical of the carnage left from when a team loses a great player. And especially one like lebron who leaves an extra amount of carnage behind.

He has 20 games with a negative plus/minus this season.

Exactly. Everybody knows Draymond sucks Lebron's dick just like KCC, Wright, and Barry.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron said two doctors recommended season-ending surgery, but then he went to see the “LeBron James of feet” and James determined he’d be able to return.</p>&mdash; Jovan Buha (@jovanbuha) <a href="https://twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1640119107650748416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The man's a medical marvel. And so clearly is the LeBron James of feet.

LMAO

LePropaganda

LePED. i would have traded this fraud instead of extending him. I hope they miss the PLAY IN....AGAIN! And i am the biggest laker fan on here

I want him and his fanboys gone...his game has never been exciting anyway. Be glad when this arranged marriage is over.

Biggest Kobe fan on here, that's for sure. You probably still think he had the better career of the two.

Kobe loved to crash and burn... very exciting and explosive!

Thunder won today. Chet homgren is in that att commercial where they are in a golf cart

The Wolves have played disgraceful basketball down the stretch of this game. They can't even get a shot off.

Chet just posted on IG "Free #7" and he's listed as questionable on his ESPN.com profile. Hes apparently been playing in some 5 on 5. He wants to play but Im sure GM and ownership are like no no no.

Curry goes 8 for 23 and doesn't get bailed out this time. Beautiful. Guess he couldn't will those teammates on today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Warriors are now 25-25 this season when Steph plays.<br><br>Steph is now 1-6 (16.7%) on shots to tie or take lead in final 40 seconds of the 4th Q/OT this season. <a href="https://t.co/HRnuDwbkU8">pic.twitter.com/HRnuDwbkU8</a></p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1640191204183736321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You do know just because you wanna suck Lebrons dick doesn't mean you have to hate Steph Curry.

I don't shit on Joe Burrow to prop up Mahomes because I know Mahomes doesn't need anyone to diminish Burrow to ensure his undisputed greatness.

Kinda makes it clear how confident folks like KCC and Barry are in LeBrons standing, doesn't it?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steph blowing a 3-1 lead in the 2016 Finals then 2 weeks later slutting himself out in the Hamptons for Kevin Durant to join his already loaded team.<br><br>Never gets any criticism for it (besides me) <a href="https://t.co/5MEtIln1Mx">https://t.co/5MEtIln1Mx</a></p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1639713743373254656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Despite it all, though, I don't actually hate Curry. I hate the Warriors and what they represent.

Only idiots would compare Burrow to Mahomes and vice versa (although that didn't stop them from doing it all season up until the conclusion of the AFC Championship). The same very much goes for Curry with LeBron.

What you ca do is limited...

But the first year Mahomes won a SB:

I remember Lamar Jackson in a playoff game down by 10 in the second half siting on the bench by himself hanging his head...

In a different game, but same season...

I remember Mahomes in a playoff game down by 10 in the second half bouncing up and down in front of the defensive players as the defense was getting ready to take the field...

Too bad Patrick can't motivate his defenses to be above average like Brady one of these years. That would make things a hell of a lot easier.

He did.


Le Fraud will never be a true Laker. All he cared about this year was a longevity record. F him.

One 4 month off bubble ass chip in front of no fans don't mean shit to us. And it STILL was not possible without a healthy AD. 4 months off sure helps. Outside of a bubble, it has been a horrendous failure. King my ass.

LMAO Damn, KCC is on full court press right now after that one. Look at all those deleted posts ROFL

Lebron +4 in a 10 point loss. Narrative: Team was great when he was on the floor, his teammates let him down when he rested.

Curry +2 in a 3 point loss. Narrative: Curry sucks, he couldn't will his teammates on and they didn't bail him out.

What do they represent? Drafting and developing the majority of their best players while designing a system to fit those players. Or just beating lebron?

In fairness it is just 1 person, KCC, who comes in here trolling. What is confusing to me is that he actually has a home town NBA team (Raptors) that he is a fan of but he spends 99% of his time in this thread stanning for Lebron instead of his team.

That would be akin to a Chief fan going into every Chiefs thread saying how much they love and how great Burrow or Allen and never talking Chiefs.

Have some self respect jfc.

The Warriors definitely ruined the enjoyment of the game a little. It’s not fun watching teams just jack up 3’s now instead of working the ball into the paint and running an offense. Kerr basically came up with a philosophy that you can jack up enough 3’s to just outscore every opponent. It’s why defense has become worse over the years because teams simply just live and die by the 3 now. Players in youth basketball are working more on logo 3’s than dunking and post play nowadays.

You can blame some of that on GSW but analytics and Darryl Morey\Houston took it to the extreme. Most teams don't have 2 3 PT shooters like GSW does either.

Technically speaking it was probably more Pop and the hack a Shaq era that ruined the paint game, but the Warriors having success at it created a bunch of shitty replicas that aren’t enjoyable to watch.

You think the Warriors don't run an offense and just jack up 3s? Yeah they shoot a lot of them, but damn man, they do so much moving around. I'll take that over a team throwing the ball into a big guy and him taking 3 dribbles while slamming into his defender to turn around and shoot a layup any day.

And if you mean the high low concepts instead, we'll the Warriors run those concepts too, they just have brought them further out. And yes, it's very clearly based on what pop had with Duncan.

Holy shit - the "Lebron James of Feet" line was an actual quote from Lebron.

What an unbelievable chode.

true. You also though got big men jacking up 3's multiple times a game (Embiid\Jokic)

All duplicates. CP froze up last night.

If you want to discuss the Raptors any time, I'm game. But what is so interesting about the Raptors this year that requires any discussion at all? The team itself has been going through the motions all year, seemingly trying to get their coach fired. They need a rebuild.

And the LeBron discussions are largely because there is a large segment of fans here who can't handle the threat he is to MJ's legacy and haven't for many years.

The lebron discussions here are largely because you won't stop posting about him. Nobody else seems to care nearly as much.

Much like the Alexsexuals that frequented the board years ago.

I think he suffers from some mental illness. He is just an odd dude.

Most likely his hunt for the white whale that is MJ broke him.

Oh, I would disagree. I've posted about other NBA topics in these threads regularly over the years and none of them ever generate a fraction of the discussion that LeBron does.

I didn't even catch that.

But we are talking about somebody who actually refers to himself as "King James" and has "chosen 1" tattooed on his back.

I had a professor in college - quirky dude who most folks didn't care for but I liked him a lot because he'd absolutely blister me on things I wrote. He once told me "The number of times you have to write that something is 'obvious' is inversely proportionate to just how obvious it is..."

And I'll be damned if he wasn't right. If it's obvious - you really don't have to say that it is.

If you have to constantly remind people of your own greatness, well.....

There's also my favorite John Wayne Quote:

Dean Martin: "I wonder if he's as good as they say he is..."
John Wayne: "I'd say he is. I'd say he's so good he doesn't feel he has to prove it..."

LeBron James of feet. Jesus...

Like MJ and his team having ESPN do a vanity project in the form of a documentary series for him in 2020 that he retained final cut on?

The idea that LeBron's ego is somehow unique among such all-time athletes is amusing to me.

They all firmly believe they're the greatest to ever do it. That's part of why guys like him and MJ even reached the ridiculous levels they did.

Yeah, I'm sure MJ was just out there twisting ESPN's arm on that one...

ESPN was asking him/his agent for years to do it and he finally gave the go ahead conveniently after the LeBron GOAT conversation began starting up post 2016. Gee, I wonder what he was hoping to do out of that decision.

Oh sure.

And every last one of them that refer to themselves in 3rd person or use their friggen name as an adjective get mocked for it. As they should. Doubly so when you're still active or are going around sporting a nickname you gave yourself.

Ego's not a bad thing. But an obsessive insistence on touting your own greatness is just insecurity.

I definitely like how King James, who has just been carrying his sad sack teammates his whole career, was more than happy to just shut it down for the rest of the season. Until...

He got his scoring record took a few games off, played a game and was going to just sit out the rest of the season. That's commitment, man. He's there game in, game out when it comes to running down the scoring record. But once he gets that, suddenly he's Peter Griffin rolling around on the driveway with a bum wheel.

He sees them winning without him so the irreplaceable narrative is slipping. So now he needs to come out there and glom onto their success to see if he can't claim credit as some sort of savior.

But I will give you credit - you knew him well enough that you were in lockstep with his "**** the Lakers, they suck so he should just shut it down anyway" school of thought. Y'all are essentially one mind at this point. That's impressive.

He's just so damn transparent.

Wow. What a ****ing pussy. At least he's honest about it, though.

Makes a lot of sense in hindsight though. As soon as Lebron stat whored his way to the record he was content to shut it down for the year. Not having to appease LeGM and Klutch anymore Pelinka pulled off a bevy of moves to significantly un**** the damage getting into bed with LeGM and Klutch did.

I'd like to think that would be the sort of thing that could get KCC to keep his head down for a couple days.

But instead he'll show up with some justification for it...

And really, how honest did we need him to be anyway? I called as soon as he sat down the game after the record. It was clear what he was doing. Admit it or don't admit it, it really doesn't matter. It was obvious what he was up to.

The guy's almost 40 years old. He had and has no reason to waste any of his remaining miles on a dead end team going nowhere while injured. If they can actually get into the playoffs, though, that's a different story, which presumably gave him a reason to accelerate his return and avoid surgery (for now...it still may be in the cards later this summer).

None of this is unusual or surprising behavior for any basketball player, least of all somebody of LeBron's stature.

Damian Lillard, for one, just packed it in for the season this week as soon as making the play-in became unrealistic. This is literally what veteran stars in this league do all the time.

I mean, other than the $44 million they're paying him and his obligations to his teammates.

You never disappoint...

My favorite part of the LeBron experience may be that the one thing he actually DID accomplish in LA, the COVID title, wouldn't have even happened if he'd had his way and the league had shut down like he insisted before his failed walk-out.

Afterall, his usual stans would've just been willing to chalk that up as a title he 'would've won' and count it for him anyway. So why bother actually earning his check?

Well if Damien Lillard is the bar to clear for your GOAT, then I guess we're good here...

And yeah, shutting it down with 2 weeks to go when you're 3 games out due to a previous injury is totally the same as shutting it down with 12 weeks to go when you just set the all-time scoring record a couple days ago and were plenty healthy to go stat chasing.

Definitely the same thing.

The example was not made to compare their quality as basketball players. It was to point out that shutting veteran players down with injuries on bad teams has become commonplace.

If LeBron was plenty healthy, he probably wouldn't have had two doctors recommending surgery for his foot and having had to make the (rumored) trip all the way to Germany to see a specialist.