They trust Clyde more than Ronald Jones that's about it, the odds he sees many touches is very low.

I looked for a "discuss Bengals" thread, but found this discuss Chiefs thread instead,
Then remembered this is CP.:rolleyes:

Carry on.

Not on the ground.

And you left out Fortson and Gray. Also McKinnon can kill a team single-handedly as we’ve seen. And Pacheco. This is really a good team with a lot of different weapons. I think we’re gonna unload on Cincy!

I'm looking forward to the Pro Bowl and all the Bengals playing flag football in Vegas on February 5th!

Andy did this in Cincinnati but not near enough. McKinnon and Pacheco were killing them in the run game with this personnel

I can’t believe I’m saying this but I almost wonder if ceh can help us only on very short yardage. As bad as he’s been he does seem to have a decent nose for those short yardage plays where you’re not really going to get holes

Choosing CEH to be the hill you die on is an interesting choice.

99% of why that works is he's so small defenders can't see him very well.

What? OK, I thought you were serious for a minute there...you got me.

He would be part of a three headed group like he has been this season. We can hate on him all we like but he's been vital in all of our best wins this year...FACT.

Andy better ****ing use 13 personnel man. The Bengals are like us: they usually only have 2 backers and add a DB.

Perfect example of it used in the last matchup. Pre and post snap. This was a 14 yard run. Look at the goddamn hole.

Please Andy do this I beg you. You’ll score 50 doing this shit

Not to mention it was insanely cold that night too.

Just win the trenches and don't turn the ball over...and we will win.

Good points, but I would counter with…..

1. CEH being out is an addition by subtraction. I don’t have the unbridled hatred for him that some on here do, but him playing potentially takes snaps away from Pacheco and McKinnon, both of whom are playing better than him.

2. It’s true that KC left points on the board, but so did Cincinnati. They had a dropped TD and had to settle for a FG, got stopped on 4th down in the red zone because of an amazing play by Dunlap, and kneeled down to end the game. That’s 13+ points they could have if not for mistakes.

Now having back Hardman, Toney, and Thuney will be huge this game. One thing is clear is that Cincinnati is not better across the board talent wise and as such them winning on Sunday is not a given.

i wanna see them send kelce deep as a decoy in this game

they're so hyper focused on him, let juju and mckinnon and toney EAT underneath

We’re not doing well on third and 1 and we need to be hitting those. I dont think it’s the worst option. He sucks at finding holes and bursting. But he can get 1-2 yards where his only option is just run forward and follow the power blocks.

I actually think there’s some truth to that. And that he really isn’t that bad at powering through tackles. Hes not a snowplow but he can be just tough enough of a runner in those situations. Don’t read, don’t burst, just go forward and fight like hell for 1 yard.

yeah, that might be a good way to go.

I'd like to see a TON of 13 personnel, as it's NOT what the Bengals want to do. If they stay in nickel, shove it down their throats. If they go to base, let Travis, Gray, and Fortson/Bell eat 'em alive.

Make 'em do shit they'd rather not.

3rd and short?

Set up tight and under center, pitch wide to Pacheco and watch him race people to the edge. My money'd be on him with that speed.

The problem with CEH is…..

1. McKinnon is the better receiver and pass blocker

2. Pacheco is the better runner

Who’s snaps are you taking away to give them to CEH?

We lost Lammons which kind of sucks but if it was to elevate Fortson then OK.

I cant think of ANYONE that would be worth losing to elevate Clyde.

We do NOT need Clyde, for anything. Ronald Jones is better than Clyde if we need to go that far.

We got this game, Ive never felt more certain. We have weapons everywhere, we have played these guys to the wire each time. We have been leading in every contest and had weird stuff happen each time to end up losing by 3 points.

We lost last year, in our house with a trip to the SuperBowl on the line. This team has felt the sting of that for an entire year. They have wanted this exact scenario to play out. They earned the right to this rematch and there is NO WAY they dont get the revenge they seek! The Chiefs will be in control of this game for 4 quarters! Im not predicting a 38-10 game, the Bengals will get theirs, they wont be blown out.

Sunday Night, as the Chiefs take back the Lamar hunt trophy and we watch the stunned Bengals leaving Burrowhead with disbelief and the sadness of realizing their season is over...

Chiefs Kingdom, two words shall be shouted at 142.2 decibels!

"WE DEY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KC is running 13P 39% of the time in 2022, up about 10% from last season. We run 13P more than any other team, and it's become our primary formation.

I believe 100% we spent the entire offseason planning to beat THIS TEAM

and we almost pulled it off, in cincy

at arrowhead, with more talen, we GOOD

I wonder if the Chiefs could get Hardman to come back on a 1 year prove it deal since he missed most of the season.

Good deal as no injuries to report. Hopefully we will finally get Mecole back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said everyone on the active roster, once again, will practice today.<br><br>&quot;He felt good in the walkthrough,&quot; Reid said of Patrick Mahomes. &quot;He&#39;s on track.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1618668418177323008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes we suck on 3rd and 1 but the answer is not Clyde.

Its Andy! He needs to throw out every play he has for 3rd and 1.

Call the play he has for 3rd and 8! Its that simple.

we just need to keep seeing FP from Patrick

no LP

NO DNP

JUST FULL PEN15

THE WHITE CHOCOLATE PENII

I think that's very possible.

I think we need Fortson back, as much or maybe more than Hardman. We run a ton of 13P, and Fortson is a real weapon there.

It’s also because Andy refuses to QB sneak ever since the kneecap game. Definitely don’t do it this game, but if they did more QB sneaks this 3rd and 1 percentage would go up.

This.

No more A or B gap plunges, please.

Lake Bell didn’t play last time we played them and I believe she will greatly help our run game against the Bengals..

she?

Just messing with you guys..

KILL KILL KILL!


That is all

Last meeting they targeted our ILB's alot in the pass game.

great thread

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Name a Titans DB... I&#39;m serious<br><br>No Ramsey, Slay, or Sauce can be found on this roster, yet they still held Burrow &amp; company to 20 pts without forcing a turnover<br><br>How you might ask...2 words:<br>Deception &amp; Frustration</p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675103159705601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Pats try and trick Burrow by showing a cover 1 man look w/ a LB blitz, then dropping out into cover 2 zone to save their ass on the back end<br><br>Burrow recognizes this pre snap and as soon as the LB drops into coverage, he rifles it in-between the hook &amp; vert defenders. <a href="https://t.co/fYDWw3DAh6">pic.twitter.com/fYDWw3DAh6</a></p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675223137763328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That&#39;s exactly what the Titans did when they forced him into completing only 59% of his passes<br><br>Instead of hoping that Burrow cannot find the soft spots in the zone, Vrabel and the boys flipped the script, playing cover 1 man A LOT</p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675230624600065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the same drive they get the cover 2 look they usually look for, but because Burrow can&#39;t trust his pre-snap judgments he holds the ball, overlooks his WRs underneath, &amp; forces a ball late and away from Irvin <a href="https://t.co/Sy1NAZB2K0">pic.twitter.com/Sy1NAZB2K0</a></p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675374396944384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I know it will cause an outcry from Chiefs fans when Ja&#39;Marr Chase or<br>Tyler Boyd catches a 50/50 ball up the sidelines for 30 yards<br><br>But putting Burrow in a position where he has no idea what to think because we are breaking our tendencies well outweighs these negatives</p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675454168428547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs defense has the chance to do something they’ve never done before this Sunday…stop Joe Burrow, and with the new, young talent we have on defense, I don’t expect anything less <a href="https://t.co/hqJ7AEEyFX">pic.twitter.com/hqJ7AEEyFX</a></p>&mdash; Smartest Guy in the Zoom (@CBreezy_Edits) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBreezy_Edits/status/1618675462326353921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

CEH in the redzone has arguably been the best out of the group. That's the area I want to see him in and maybe 3rd and 1.

Yeah, except McKinnon is the best in the red zone.

With good reason and effect. But I think not only will we see our LBs cover better, but also McDuffie playing in the slot a lot plus Reid playing near the box should help cancel some of that effectiveness in this one. I'm assuming some things here, like Sneed following Chase or Higgins around, so McDuffie can play mostly in the slot, allowing Reid to play closer to the box, etc., but I think that's what Spags will try to do.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow&#39;s chart against the Chiefs in Week 13.<br><br>KC sat in a soft zone, and the combo of Bolton/Gay got destroyed between the numbers. <br><br>The Chiefs also giving up a ton YAC on quick throws near the line with horrid tackling. <a href="https://t.co/DMe6uGcE9X">pic.twitter.com/DMe6uGcE9X</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1618668433851428865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thank you.

This man was born to be a WWE Superstar.

Ceh played way less games than Jet.

It's cause he's a brokedick . . . . . . . and not near as effective.

For the last few days i've felt pretty damn good about this game. Like, real good.

I'm talking blowout good. I honestly think the Chiefs win this by multiple scores.

Another thing that is fresh in my mind is simply the NFL grind. Last year we played the Steelers to an easy win and then had that huge battle with the Bills before the Cinci game where we seemed to run out of steam in the second half.

The Bengals have played two tough games back to back with the Ravens and then big game against the Bills. At some point those games catch up with you..we'll see if it's on Sunday.

The bartender asks, "What can I get you, Ray?"

I wonder if jamar chase is still allowed to push off in flag football as well?

Chiefs defense beta tested their gameplan in Cincy. They wanted to force everything to the midle of the field.

It worked OK, they just needed to stop the run better and get their hands on some balls at the LOS. They got CLOSE.

Enter BRANDON WILLIAMS and Playoff Frank + Seasoned Karlaftis.

GET R DUN

Oh no Gay, what is you doing?!?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not many words from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LB Willie Gay today but one thing stood out.<br><br>“What impresses you about that Bengals offense?”<br><br>“Nothing.” <a href="https://t.co/lp6KQ2HeAG">pic.twitter.com/lp6KQ2HeAG</a></p>&mdash; PJ Green (@PJGreenTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/PJGreenTV/status/1618677465853075457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nothing wrong with that he said.

He chose not to lick their ass cracks. Big whoop.

This podcast was recorded on Monday before we had more clarity on Mahomes' injury, but man, Brett Kollmann is very down on the Chiefs vs the Bengals.

I'll save you a watch:
- Chiefs can't stop the Bengals run game
- Bengals have no weaknesses on their defense
- DJ Reader will bottle up on the Chiefs' running game
- Lou Anarumo has Mahomes' number
- Only Mahomes/Kelce magic could win this game and he doubts that happens because of the injury

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yvicEEOkcmw?start=1909" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

brett kollman thought the jags were a problem for us LMAO

He was with Matt Lane on KCSN yesterday. Picked the Bengals to win but not remotely overwhelmingly so. Didn’t feel he was that down on the Chiefs.

EXACTLY.

I was literally going to say this is nothing but choosing not to blow smoke up their ass like the question was trying to force.

Kollman has been incredibly negative on the Chiefs all year.

Basically, if I see that he's the guest on a KCSN podcast, I don't even bother watching. I already know what he's going to say before he speaks.

Nate Taylor picked us to lose to but said it’s mostly the injury. Said he could change his pick if he can see Patrick move like normal in pregame

This. He's a jack wagon

Well thank god Willie Gay isn't a spineless wanker like our sports journalists are.

<div class="tenor-gif-embed" data-postid="13962423" data-share-method="host" data-aspect-ratio="2.38" data-width="30%"><a href="https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-thats-all-i-have-to-say-tom-hanks-gif-13962423">Forrest Gump Thats All I Have To Say GIF</a>from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/forrest+gump-gifs">Forrest Gump GIFs</a></div> <script type="text/javascript" async src="https://tenor.com/embed.js"></script>

I think we lose too if I'm being honest. Mostly because of the injury. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I don't understand it. The media, most fans, everyone is picking Cincy. An underdog Chiefs team at home should scare any team out there. The longer this goes on (and I don't see it changing), the more likely it is for the Chiefs to not only win, but win by at least double digits.

Unfortunately that Buffalo game was nowhere near as tough for Cincy as it should have been. I was hoping it would be a tough battle all the way into overtime. It was pretty much over by the time the 4th quarter started. Cincy also got 85% of a bye week with the Damar Hamlin situation. They only played 15% of 60 minutes in that game.

You will be. :thumb:

Yeah... with both teams at full strength it's probably a 50/50. I think we're a little unlucky not to have won at least 1 of the last 3, and they have all been close games. With Mahomes less than 100% you have to give them the edge this time.

Counterpoint: maybe not.

Why would you think anything else unless you're just building up excuses so you won't feel as bad when they lose?

The team has repeatedly said he's going to be ready to go. He says he feels great.

Take it at face value instead of ignoring it.

He's going to be fine and the Chiefs are going to win.

The injury thingy and losing to them 3 times in a row has a lot of people nervous.

The fact that all of this negativity talk, the fact we were missing many key players last time, plus the fact that we have beat ourselves all 3 games and not wanting to lose a 4th time ought to be enough motivation on top the fact the winner goes to the SB for a KC WIn!

I feel way more confident in this game than I ever did last year. The trend that the Chiefs have is quite clear: they lose these games that they get surprised by like last years Bengals.

The games they knowingly prepare for, against an opponent they know well and hate, will be taken very seriously.

Perfect example is the TB game. They hadn’t been on that field since the SB loss and they had a terrible taste in their mouth. It didn’t matter that the Bucs weren’t as good as before bc the Chiefs absolute beat the shit out of them.

They were focused. They were prepared. They took it personally.

Yeah. I think this is a VERY personal game for them.

I thought they ran out of gas last year too. Multiple OT games and close games over a 3 year period..They were physically and emotionally spent… New fresh players this year that are hungry for their Championship run…

You negative Nellys better snap out of it!

stupendous

<iframe id="reddit-embed" src="https://www.redditmedia.com/r/KansasCityChiefs/comments/10lt5yp/oc_as_you_gif/?ref_source=embed&amp;ref=share&amp;embed=true" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups" style="border: none; --darkreader-inline-border-top: initial; --darkreader-inline-border-right: initial; --darkreader-inline-border-bottom: initial; --darkreader-inline-border-left: initial;" data-darkreader-inline-border-top="" data-darkreader-inline-border-right="" data-darkreader-inline-border-bottom="" data-darkreader-inline-border-left="" height="413" width="640" scrolling="no"></iframe>

KC led all three games late by at least one TD. They gave the games away via turnovers and bad penalties. In other words, shot themselves in the foot.

All we have to do is play a complete game. We've done it many times before and can do it again. If KC brings their "A" game, it won't even be close... they'll blow these fools out. If they let off the gas, if they turn it over, if they flail in coverage leading to costly DPIs, it'll be another close game.

Time to take that monkey off our back and use it for medical experiments. Build a huge lead early, keep the pedal to the metal, and rest Mahomes & the starters late in the fourth. Hoist another LAMAR HUNT TROPHY in front of the home crowd, and prepare for the SB.

We all saw him suffer an injury severe enough that he had trouble finishing a game. I don't think it's weird to wonder about his health just 5 days later.

And I think the chances of him aggravating the injury are pretty high.

Love reading and hearing all these media guys picking the Bengals. Has me feeling reeeeeal good about this game. If I've learned one thing in my time sports betting, it's that fading the public is a real thing and generally a pretty good strategy. And I don't care how famous a media guy is, he's still considered the "public" in the gambling world. I know of only 2 media guys picking the Chiefs to win (I love him, but Nick Wright doesn't count for this one) and most people haven't heard of them.

Tom Byrne of Mad Dog Sports Radio and Jared Dubin from CBS Sports website. That's it. That's the national media list (I'm sure there are others, I don't read or watch much ESPN except for PTI and both of them are picking the Bengals).

I'm now more confident than I've been all week.

Chris Simms has the Chiefs, he's about the only one.