Remember when you were telling CP that signing Jarran f’ing Reed was going to be the best move of the NFL last offseason? LMAO

Yea, I'm the only one that was excited about getting an interior pass rusher in their prime that was capable of double digit sacks :rolleyes:

Typical loser that will ignore everything I was right about the last several years.

Your deflection is noted though.

So it's white on red.

It was a horrible take. You’ve had plenty of them. Ive had plenty of bad takes too. That’s the nature of putting opinions on an internet message board. Calm down dude.

A healthy rested Justin Watson in a controlled climate should help the O.

I saw that. Wish it were all white.

My son was hoping and wishing for that too. I prefer the white/reds though. Actually, i prefer the all reds but w/e.

White on white makes us look like a bunch of used tampons

I just ordered my Mahomes white jersey with SB LIVII patch! Let's freaking do this! GEAUX CHIEFS!

Lot’s of Chiefs fans live outside of the KC-area… don’t think this is an accurate reflection of what the crowd make-up will be…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s a Philly thing—apparently so is buying Super Bowl tickets— according to <a href="https://twitter.com/TickPick?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TickPick</a> 24% of SB tickets have been purchased from PA so far.<br> <br>Roughly 7% from Missouri and Kansas combined…Stadium will be very green Sunday—I gotta see if I can get me 5 tickets to get that # up.</p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1621294497043988481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fun fact, those tickets are currently going for $7500 a piece!

Way better than the red pants the consensus on this board dislikes! :thumb:

I mean have you ever seen a used tampon?

Usually the bottom half is red while the top is white.

I'd argue that white on red looks even more like one ;).

https://i.imgur.com/iLk6YTX.jpg

24% of what... a 100 tickets that have been sold on a ticketing website I've never heard of, are from Philly..... SO MUCH GREEN!

I agree. Not a big fan of white on white.

SOOOOO MANY BENGAL FANS DOWNTOWN!!! IT MAY BE 50 50 SUNDAY!

White on white would've been cool for Len

Frescas and cigarettes at half time!!

Screw Orlovsky and his out of bounds loving ass.

Isn't that the point? We are currently wearing #16 on OUR helmets.

Winning it for Len would be even cooler :)

Feel thats a given its just how we look doing it

SOS and the Super Bowl
Chiefs....16th
Eagles....31st

Those with 10 points or more stronger strength of schedule than their opponent are 10-2

Of course they’re playing. It’s the final game of the season. Unless you’re on your death bed you’re giving it a go. You have all offseason to get better after this. That’s why Hardman is seeking another opinion because he wants to try to play.

I don’t believe this bullshit.

Orlovsky is a cuck.

Everybody is picking the Eagles. Love being underdogs

It’s hilarious to me…they never learn.

The Eagles haven’t played any elite QBs or offenses, Hurts is more compromised than Mahomes, their defensive scheme plays right into our hands, and Siriani/Hurts have never been in this big of a game…we have and we’re battle tested.

Two weeks for Andy and Spags to cook something up…?

There’s zero doubt in my mind the Chiefs are winning this game and it wouldn’t surprise me if we curbstomp them.

Yes sir

One thing I haven’t seen discussed much is Mahomes’ history vs the NFC.

This year: 5-0

Blew out AZ on the road without breaking a sweat
Blew out Brady on the road
Blew out SF on the road
Sleepwalked through a blowout of the Rams
Blew out Seattle in Arrowhead

Last year: 5-0

Blew out Eagles on the road
Blew out Washington on the road
Beat the Giants
Beat Green Bay
Beat Dallas convincingly

2020: 4-1

Whipped Brady’s ass on the road
Beat NO/Brees on the road
Beat Carolina
Beat Atlanta

2019: 3-0

Beat Detroit on the road
Blew out Chicago on the road
Beat SF in the Super Bowl

2018: 2-2

Beat 49ers by double digits
Beat AZ by double digits
Lost in LA 54-51
Lost in Seattle 38-31

17-0 in the regular season the past four years. Mostly blowouts. Only loss being the SB with a 3rd string OL and 10+ flags from Cheffers.

First year would have been a sweep as well with any sort of a defense.

We need to win this to avenge Santa Claus.

If they run up the score on bad teams. That hasn't worked well for Lamar and Allen. *Winning close games builds team chemistry. Fight to the last whistle mentality is just SOP

Edit- *could be part of Andy's season long preparation for the postseason

Burrow >>> Hurts

I agree with a lot of this, but defensive scheme? Their run D sucks (which teams don't try to abuse), their pass-rush is absurd and could definitely exploit a weakness like our tackles, and they're good in the secondary. LBs are definitely exploitable.

I think Andy and co will devise a great plan, and obviously they haven't seen anything like a Mahomes-led offense, but I'm not sure how it's a great matchup. The 9ers, for example, would've been better. Much better run D, a less diverse pass-rush that we could scheme against 1 guy, and worse in the secondary.

We need to go up 13-0 and then remind Hurts this was the score when Saban replaced you with Tua. Probably Chris Jones narrating at the line.

Seriously though, Hurts is not a great thrower of the football, poor mans Lamar Jackson. I feel 5x better going into this Superbowl matchip than the last two AFCC games. If we don't turn it over.

I got it 35-20 in a no doubter by halftime.

Every year the Bills come into the post season with a highly decorated defense in terms of stats, then they get sliced up. Regular season means nothing now you're not playing Tyler Heineken or Danny Dimes in a Superbowl

Even Tyler Heineken put up 35 vs these guys.

White on White makes our guys look faster!

Rodgers left the game in the third quarter and lost 33-40 in overtime

Their pass rush is good no doubt but they play the most vanilla ass zone scheme and rarely come out of it….keep Pat upright and he’s going to carve them up.

When has KC ever taken advantage of that against any team? I think of all stats one could come up with regarding a team that stat is the least relevant.

Nah, he might not be the second coming of Montana, but he is a better passer than Jackson.

Seriously. I'm getting tired of the weak takes around here.

Stats don't ever tell the full story, but they can point out the flaws in basic arguments.

Passing Yards:
Burrow: 4,475 (in 606 pass attempts)
Hurts: 3,701 (in 460 pass attempts) (remember Hurts missed a few games)

Completion %:
Burrow: 68.3%
Hurts: 66.5%

Passing TD/INT:
Burrow: 35/12
Hurts: 22/6

QB Rate:
Burrow: 100.8
Hurts: 101.6

Rushing yards and TDs:
Burrow: 257 yards and 5 TDs
Hurts: 760 yards and 13 TDs

20+ yard plays:
Burrow: 53
Hurts: 52

40+ yard plays:
Burrow: 10
Hurts: 11

Nah.

Rich man's Alex Smith.

Anyone that argues that Hurts is a better QB than Burrow seriously needs a head examination.

Stop. The. Run. These guys are very vulnerable if you make them pass.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Hurts has been sacked 38 times on 460 attempts while Mahomes has been sacked 26 times on 648 attempts. Either the Eagles O-Line isn’t as good as folks make it out to be or Hurts holds on to the ball too long. Either way, he can be got.</p>&mdash; Sterling Holmes (@HomestretchKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/HomestretchKC/status/1621271901816471552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Eagles run defense isn't elite, but not as bad currently as the stats show. Once the Eagles added Suh and Joseph to the middle, and Davis came back from injury, they got much better. The games where they gave up the most rushing yards included scrambling QBs like Fields.

You're also undervaluing the the linebacker play. White has been an average player this year, but TJ Edwards (according to PFF) is tied for the 2nd most solo tackles in the league this year and grades out as one of the better pass-defending line backers in the league. He'll never blow you away with athleticism (in other words, he's not catching a speedy WR or probably even Kelce from behind) but he is excellent at diagnosing plays as they develop and taking the best angles to make a play.

My only complaint about Watson during the season was that he shouldn't be a guy getting more snaps than any other WR on the roster.

Like Run said, he's an excellent role player. But if he's on the field too much (and he was several times in the middle of the season) that's not necessarily a good thing, especially if Andy isn't going to run the ball.

So it's off subject but at this point we can put to bed the "bring back JJSS" stuff right?

Hurts passing stats on the year. He ranks #1 in the NFL from inside the pocket and also has the best TD-TO Ratio

I think some people here are also forgetting AJ Brown has almost 1500 yards on the season and DeVonta Smith is a few yards shy of 1200 yards. Dallas Goedert inspite being out some games has over 700 yards.

This team is very capable through the Air. The only question is Hurts health

Thank you. Some of the posters on here are dismissing Jalens ability to throw the ball. He has improved drastically this year in that area with the stats to show. The shoulder though. That is the big unknown.

Ok, that's great and all but both of these posts treat the shoulder like some passive, minor issue.

It's kind of a big deal. His stats since his shoulder injury are nowhere near as dazzling. It's not an "unknown". It's not really a "question". His shoulder is busted. He said as much yesterday. No one is even trying to hide it.

Eagles get to play a Mahomes with an injured ankle, Chiefs are playing a Hurts with a busted shoulder.

Those things can't just be dismissed.

You're absolutely right. I think the OPers were probably bringing up the issue because none of the posts (that I saw) that spoke about Hurts not being very good (poor man's Lamar Jackson...etc) ever referenced his injured shoulder. Perhaps they meant "now that his shoulder is hurt" he's not as dynamic of a passer, but none of the posts downplaying him ever gave that disclaimer. So it makes it seem as though they are discussing his entire season, which I think is exactly what they were doing. As if he wasn't the MVP favorite or runner up prior to the injury.
But no doubt, the arm injury is a large concern now, and he simply hasn't looked as good since trying to come back from it. Mahomes may have an ankle injury but I'd take that all day over a QB with a shoulder injury on his throwing arm.

Does it get any easier than this? Good God man

Here are the last 14 QBs the Eagles have faced:

Cooper Rush
Kenny Pickett
Davis Mills
Taylor Heinicke
Matt Ryan
Aaron Rodgers (scored 33 points)
Ryan Tannehill
Daniel Jones
Justin Fields
Dak Prescott (scored 34 points)
Andy Dalton
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Josh Johnson

Also gave up 35 to Jared Goff…without Jameson Williams

Heck...the final week of the regular season, it wasn't even Daniel Jones for the Giants. It was their backup QB Davis Webb. The Giants pretty much forfeited that game by playing all backups.

I'd probably have to deep dive into the games but at first glance it appears that the teams that shut down the Eagles offense (<24 pts) mostly shut down their running backs (not necessarily Hurts running) and it seemed like no back of theirs got more than 50 yards.

Key on that running game and hold them to 21 or less, I think Mahomes curb stomps them.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/v...he-2022-season

There's all of their sacks if you want to go watch them.

Jesus Christ, Carson Wentz has literally ZERO pocket awareness.

It’s probably no coincidence that Reddick, Hargrave, Graham, and Sweat are all at different stages of their careers, but all just happened to post a career high in sacks this year. Even Fletcher Cox posted his highest total since 2018.

We do need a plan for Reddick. Can't allow him to just run around our tackles.

If you watch that sack video, Romo mentioned in one of the games that the Eagles love to rush 5. They also love to run a ton of stunts.

We’re going to kill them!!!!

Okay now THAT would be epic

Biggest reason, according to the players, for their increased sack totals this year (although Reddick has been in double digits before) is the depth of the Dline allowing them to sub quite often. So even though they are taking less reps, those reps are more productive as they stay fresh. Also, Sweat is a young player just coming into his own. I expected this jump for him this year. Hargrave and Graham have likely benefitted most by the more frequent subbing.

Playing against awful QBs helps too

Do you think Jalen will need surgery when the season is over?

What, is he turning to Jaylena during the offseason?

They blitz Reddick all the time.

I have a feeling Reid is going to screen them to death, honestly. Nothing better against an ultra-aggressive front like they have.

Think McKinnon has a Damien Williams-like impact on this Super Bowl?

Wow.

Thanks for sharing. This kind of reinforced my thoughts about the Eagles' pass rush perhaps not being as dominant as stats alone would suggest.

Awful lot of bad, overmatched OLs (ie, not as good as the Chiefs). Awful lot of below average QBs being indecisive with the ball.

The Chiefs have a good OL, a QB with excellent pocket presence and awareness, and willl schematically work to get the ball out quick.

You don't see a LOT of quick wins in their season sack sequence. You see ends winning with power (even Reddick does not have a lot of quick-twitch wins). You see a group doing their job.

It's a good group, but the weak Os and QBs have inflated the sack numbers.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Hurts has really developed a ton since he was a rush first QB as a freshman at Alabama. How well he played this year is impressive. I also believe that if his injury is better by the SB, the Eagles will be tough. If not I like our chances on defense. I do not doubt our secondary’s ability to hang with the Eagles receivers after what they did last week. Hurts not being as effective of a thrower due to injury makes their job easier. Plus I would wonder how many times they would design run him knowing he is injured.

The advanced stats on Pro Football Reference back this up. They’re middle of the pack in both Hurry % and Knockdown %.

They’re second in pressure percentage, but they’re right in line with the other top pass rushes in the league.

The chasm that exists between them and everybody else in sacks doesn’t seem to exist in the other pass rush metrics. That leads me to believe that the bad QBs they played all year weren’t good enough or didn’t have the presence to get rid of the ball. They either weren’t finding receivers or they didn’t know when to throw it away and live to fight another down.

I know these stats can be a little weird with how they’re calculated and all, but you would think a team that leads the league in sacks by 15 would also have a pretty wide margin over everyone else in the other metrics.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/2022/opp.htm

Odd thing I realized today when looking at the Eagles games...

When teams held the Eagles to less than 400 yards of total offense, the Eagles averaged 22.0 ppg and were 6-2.

In games where the Eagles had 400 or more yards of total offense, the Eagles averaged 33.6 ppg and were 10-1.

What was more interesting was how those teams held the Eagles' offense down.
In games of 400+ yards, the Eagles averaged 262.7 passing ypg and 174.7 rushing ypg. In those games < 400 yards, the Eagles averaged 185.5 passing ypg and 125.4 rushing ypg.

Of those 8 games < 400, remove the Saints game and you have only one instance where the Eagles rushed for less than 135 yards and that was the game they got destroyed by Washington (94 yds).

So the real theory might not be to sell out on the run to shut them down. It just may be to shut down the pass. Obviously, you can't let them pop off for 200+ rushing yards though.

Very possible.

That makes a lot of sense. Lamar Jackson put up some crazy passing performances when teams sold out against the run and let him make easy reads.

I really don’t think a run game alone is beating Mahomes. It takes balance and a QB on the other side making big throws. Probably smart to make that difficult on Hurts.

Eagles had 29 sacks last year. I know they added Hargrave but that doesn’t really account for an increase of 40+ sacks. They’re good but as others said, it’s largely schedule attributed.

Take out the Minshew games and what are those records looking like? I would assume they are under 400 yard games?

They added Reddick who accounted for 16.

I think the Chiefs matchup just fine offensively. I would be very surprised if we have problems moving the ball between the 20s.

I think there are a lot more questions about how we match up defensively. It's a unique offense using Run-Option, RPOs, and spread concepts. The addition of Brown at receiver really unlocked this offense and prevented teams from loading the box.

I might be in the minority here but I think our DBs will do very well against their receivers. Not saying AJ and Devonta won't get theirs because they will. I just don't see them taking over the game, plus I don't think Hurts' shoulder will be 100% by game time.