The touchdown was also impressive. Any other RB would have went down before crossing the goal line. Somehow he stayed up and stretched just enough to get across. His balance and spatial awareness is amazing.

Can you imagine the punishment that a tandem RB stable of Hunt and Pacheco would be like when together?

I really think what he doing is amazing.. Coming off the couch with no OTAs or training camp and takes the full load of carries his second game back.. Must of been in amazing shape.. I thought it would take 3 or 4 games to get him up to speed..
I really think he’s running smarter and better than Pop was.. But with those 2 together… Pain for opposing defenses..

Said it before we haven't had a good NFL RB since Hunt and he showed everyone last night what one looks like. Best signing this year by far and hopefully he stays healthy.

Those jump cuts were a thing of beauty

Stud

Pacheco, Hunt, Perine is going to be an awesome trio of backs

Good to see he's still a great blocker for Pat.

Always falling forward.

Almost like he never left, or rather, picked up from where he left off in Andy's system.

Glad Clark forgave him and brought him back into the fold.

For all parties involved.

Just wait until those wheel routes and screens come back into play.

Glad he's back.

I noticed that Wallcrawler has been absent in this thread today. With posts like this, I can see why

Hell yeah. The bye week is a perfect time to install those plays back in the playbook

Wasn’t a fan of him getting 27 touches but that’s fine with a bye coming. Need to preserve him to stay fresh as the season goes on.

Hope we can jump on some teams early to get a lead so Steele can get more of the 2nd half runs

Steele can’t protect the ball, though. His running style and fumbling issues make him a terrible candidate for 2nd half closer duties. Can’t trust the dude.

:LOL:

Andy disagrees.

That dude posts some weird shit.

Hates on Andy, Spags, Jones, and now Kareem? The ****?

I second this. Hunt was and is a great player. Best RB since himself and Charles. :thumb:

I think the Chiefs went into this game fully prepared to take advantage of the bye.

I mean no, JJSS can't hold up to that kind of volume week after week. But boy, you can drive him like you stole him for an evening and then give him two weeks off.

And no, Hunt's not gonna be able to handle 25+ carries every week (he was reaching for his ribs/chest area a lot early in this game) but you can grind him up tonight and let him recover.

It was a really smart way to leverage the week off. They just decided to lean heavily into 3 guys who they really can't do that with every week (Hunt, JJSS and Kelce) but who you could count on for a game and give plenty of time to rest and recover.

That's damn smart.

Undefeated 3-peat because we haven’t fired on all cylinders yet.

Yep.

But damn they were all beat to hell against that defense, but thus is life in the NFL. It's why I always cringe when guys lower a shoulder on the sideline, or try to run over someone in the MOF.

The name of the game here is to avoid hits. At all costs.

They need to get Wiley some touches at some point and see how that development can go.

Get CEH and Steele some carries I guess, but do you carry 4 RBs?

Oh he'll be back.

He and BWillie are willing to be wrong with their whole chest pretty much every time.

I'm glad to have Jody back and everything but it does make me wonder if they aren't loving what they see from Wiley.

Further proof that training camp and practice or getting in "football shape" is extremely overrated for vets.

I rarely criticize a skill player for going down or getting OOB.

Playoff game? Maybe a key game for 1 seed or a division championship (I don't even remember what 'key games for a division championship' are like anymore) -- maybe then you get physical to set a tone.

But 90% of the games we seen in the regular season don't have THAT kind of meaning to them. Live to play another down.

They're sprinkling him in and I tend to watch him when I see him out there. He had a free release up the seam when they had a play pretty clearly designed for Kelce.

But he does seem to struggle with some of the little stuff. Blocks aren't clean, seems to be a little less confident in his routes (though that's pretty speculative from the stands).

I don't think they've lost confidence in him because they're still sending him out there. But he just looks like a rookie, that's all.

Nothing to worry about there, really.

Yeah, I don't think there's much issue there yet, rookie TE's are what they are.

You had me until CEH....

It's not my first choice either.

I'd trade Skyy for a hot dog and keep the five RBs once Pacheco is ready

They all need the rest.

Mitch commented on postgame how they've basically played six seasons in five.

Early bye is a Godsend.

Andy will always give guys multiple chances to redeem themselves.

We’ve seen that with Hardman, CEH, Skyy Moore, Toney.

We'll see.

With the bye this early, they really are gonna need that 1 seed, IMO.

Or you'll hope they go into week 18 without anything to play for (which is a distinct possibility if they HAVEN'T clinched the 1 seed by then).

They're gonna be awfully tired and banged up heading into the playoffs having played 12 straight weeks...

Yeah, give me the bye week late. Always.

Pat mentioned awhile back that they hated the early bye. Now they play 12 straight weeks with a couple short weeks thrown in.

They're well positioned to get the bye. Go 9-3 the rest of the way and you've got it locked in. Take care of business and you get the best of all worlds.

no way we go undefeated, especially the way this team takes games off.

So what happens when Pacheco is fully healthy? Are we going to see any 2 back sets with Hunt and Pacheco in the backfield?

How would a team even think of defending that?

Pretty hard to imagine that they won’t go at least 9–3 and they’ll probably do even better. I expect they will get the bye and we will probably even have a meaningless game for the last one. So I think having the bye at week six is perfect and they will be well rested for the playoffs also.

Maybe in short yardage/goal line situations. Aside from that, i seriously doubt we'll see it very often.

I dunno. Hunt and Perine are probably better pass catchers than the bottom of our WR room.

Perfect season will be on the line. We're playing to win.

Not sure he's got much choice but to give Steele carries.

Give the ball to Skyy Moore

Pretty easy answer to me, really.

Hunt really has no burst at all to speak of. 13-15 yards may be the best he has in those legs.

But he's still powerful and has excellent vision.

So you use Pacheco between the 20s and you use Hunt in the Red Zone and short yardage situations. Perine as the 3rd down back but you sprinkle Hunt in for some tendency breakers in between the 20s as a pass catching option on 1st and 2nd down.

I don't think it's really going to be a problem.

I'd rest starters on Christmas Day.

Still want to see Kareem getting work in the passing game.

Pacheco has never looked "natural" in the passing game to me.

Feel like Hunt would've brought in that wheel route that Pacheco duffed in the Ravens game.

Pacheco doesn't look 'natural' doing a damn thing. He's just so aggressive in his movements. But in the case of the passing game, it probably does impact him a bit.

The wheel routes that develop from having both of them in the backfield are gonna be sick

We have a couple of long weeks in there too. We need to make hay before we hit the 3 games in 10 days stretch. Make those games less important.

True and the last game of the regular season is like a bye with 10 days in between.

Andy knew exactly what he was doing.

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KH still has some juice

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Kareem Hunt’s 27 carries last night, he reached 15 miles per hour or more on three of them. So did Patrick Mahomes on 3 of his 6 carries per Next Gen Stats. Neither reached the 20+ mph mark. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1843695355181040005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JJSS is only 27, I think he’ll be fine with the workload

The question is how much his knees can hold up to.

Didn't realize until after the game that Kareem carried 27 times last night. Makes me wonder if they lost track of that during the game? Just seems like a ton of carries for a RB that was sitting on the couch just a couple weeks ago.

This 100%. Was pleasantly surprised at his performance last night, and hopefully he'll stay healthy, but I don't believe that JJSS will hold up if he has to absorb that many targets per game for the next 12 games, plus the playoffs. That knee needs to be coddled until January, especially if Veach isn't able to acquire a quality WR like Cooper/DHop before the deadline.

false equivalence.

Besides, he said he wasn't down on the kid the same night most here threw him under the bus.

He's a rook.
You cant base his career off of two fumbles, one that was forced.

IMO Hunt is a lot better than Pacheco in short yardage situations. Hunt knows how to make himself skinny and has this little instinctive side jump to avoid defenders. His short yardage vision is pretty elite. Dude is just a Dawg as well will not be denied first down yardage.

Good luck to opposing defenses when Pacheco returns. 15 touches for Pacheco, 12 for Hunt and 2-3 from Steele a game. All of those touches from a fresh and hungry back. Good luck!

Pacheco should be used at the start of games. He's faster and will be more effective against fresher defenses.

Then bring in Hunt when everyone is gassed.

Hunt is better b/c he has much better vision.

Once Pacheco is back, any touches from Steele need to be nothing more than change of pace runs from the up-back position.

Just make him the damn fullback he was born to be.

He's not a halfback.

Yea if you could give Pacheco Hunts vision he'd probably run for 1500 yards.

With all the attention on it just watch him have a long career.

What? They’re comparing his speed to mahomes. 20 mph is not that fast and he didn’t hit it once.

20mph is not that fast. Lmao ok bruh.

Absolutely.

Hunt doesn’t have tremendous speed, he’s got some power but his vision is elite.

Our running game wasn’t this smooth under Pacheco

This is actually...insane.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That Kareem Hunt 13-yard carry is the longest for Chiefs *all year*<br><br>.<a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jessenewell</a> wrote about that this week:<a href="https://t.co/hjhVqaSDeX">https://t.co/hjhVqaSDeX</a></p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1848131336743403564?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Direckshun got his power running team LMAO

I agree, I see Hunt able to fulfill the RB passing routes that we used McKinnon for though.

Herm nods slowly and smiles at this offense

Can't wait to get Pacheco back, so that Hunt can do all the short yardage stuff and Pacheco gets everything else. Hunt is perfect at getting the 3rd and 1 and goal line stuff, but he's had 2.8, 3.5, and 3.8 ypc the last 3 games. Take out his first game and he's at 3.4 ypc and that's not good enough when we're running it 20+ times a game. He and Pacheco will be the perfect 1-2 punch. So excited for it.

I don’t care what his YPC is. He’s highly effective when he has the ball and has been extremely dependable.

Need to find a way to move some of the wear & tear away from Kareem. More carries for the other RB’s or maybe some passing game stuff with Perine.

Guy came from the couch to 20 carries a game work horse. He is getting banged up and it isn't sustainable. Hopefully Pacheco comes back soon and we can load manage him better.

It'll be a different offense in December when Pacheco and Brown are both back in the same huddle.

With Hunt staying healthy... him and Pacheco would be a dual threat. That wheel route could be crushed by Kareem. Brown and Worthy can get deep. Kelce and Dhop can feast in the 10-15 yard routes. JuJu may contribute too. Hardman do his thing with the gimmick stuff Reid comes up with.

We will be at 100% by playoff time.

Yep. Even if the play blows up and he's hit 3 yards behind the LOS he still makes it back to the LOS.

I think he has maybe, and I'm pretty sure I'm not kidding, THREE plays for negative yards, and he tripped or slipped on all 3? This is from bad memory though.

Very low standards. Don't get me wrong, I like Hunt and how he always falls forward for an extra yard when it's blocked up. And he hasn't coughed it up like our scrub UDFA FB-RB did (again, low bar).

But we'd benefit massively from a RB capable of getting 10, 15, 20 yards when the play is excellently blocked and Hunt is only getting 7 or 8 on those plays.

Yet it has been good enough. The last 3 games we have on cruise control because of his running.

Hunt is slowing down, guys.

They need to rotate Crocky J back in some. Hunt's yards per carry and his broken tackles have declined each week.

I'm not hating on him -- he's doing exactly what we need him to do, and he's doing it well. But he was on the couch, this is not what he was built to do.

YPC feels irrelevant for Hunt. If his average is 3 yards, thats perfect, in 4 downs he gets you a first and in 3rd and short or goal line, he gets you over the line.

I say YPC feels irrelevant because it seems as though he always gets between 2 & 6 yards. Theres no 8 yard, -2 yards, 5 yards, 15 yards, - 1, -1, 0. He is consistent reliable and you know exactly what you are going to get.

Plus his body must be pretty bashed up towards the end of games, hes a RB2 playing as a RB1 and getting used a lot. He is going to be perfect when Pacheco comes back. Pacheco for the explosiveness, Hunt for the reliable yards when Pacheco needs a breather, Perine for 3rd downs