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ChiefsCountry 12-27-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11980313)
Thanks for making my point for me. If the Cardinals had thrown $240 million at Albert Pujols, they wouldn't have Holliday, Wainwright and Molina on their team.

Pujols = Gordon

Holliday, Wainwright, Molina = Hosmer, Moustakas, Davis

That's how you sustain a winning program. You don't put all of your eggs in the aging superstar's basket.

Not even close but whatever you want to think.

Lex Luthor 12-27-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11980319)
Not even close but whatever you want to think.

You're right. Pujols was twice the player Gordon is.

tk13 12-27-2015 08:31 PM

I wouldn't go quite that far, nobody's going to give Gordon $200M, but the idea of paying someone for their declining years is more valid.

My greater point was how much more will Hosmer and Moose get than Gordon? You obviously can't afford to give every one of these guys $20M a year, unless you're the Dodgers. So you have to pick and choose... but there is the risk Hos/Moose could walk. Giving it to guys still in their 20's definitely seems like the safer play. Although I think Gordon is tough and will age okay. His defense may decline but he'll hold his own at the plate.

ChiefsCountry 12-27-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11980322)
You're right. Pujols was twice the player Gordon is.

Yeah. But we can afford Gordon's contract. It's also a position we have nobody in the farm system being blocked either and we have a nice two year window where we can win some more.

Lex Luthor 12-27-2015 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11980330)
Yeah. But we can afford Gordon's contract. It's also a position we have nobody in the farm system being blocked either and we have a nice two year window where we can win some more.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to see Alex Gordon come back. I was just watching the top plays of the year on Fox Sports One, and Gordon had #8 (diving into the stands to catch a ball) and #7 (the biggest home run of the 2015 postseason).

I sincerely hope he and Dayton Moore find a way to make it happen. But if it doesn't, I'm not going to call the Royals a bunch of cheap bastards.

ChiefsCountry 12-27-2015 08:43 PM

My position is Gordon is a safe bet to resign. He doesn't have Holliday's bat but if that bastard can play left field up until he is 36, which would be around when Gordon's contract comes up if we resign, its fine.

2017 we are blowing this bitch up for the most part, or reloading at several positions. Gordon to me makes more sense to resign than Cain, Escobar, and Moose. Hosmer is going to be tough. Salvy should be a lock for a big contract.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-27-2015 08:44 PM

Something I'm sure the suits are taking into consideration but the average fan may not be is that the Royals must remain competitive enough over the next couple of years to ensure that new tv contract is huge. If they mortgage the future to try and repeat year and miss the playoffs and the bandwagon
fan turns on them, they could cost themselves long term tv money.

KChiefs1 12-27-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11977083)
I'd go 5/75. $15,000,000 5 years from now will likely be below league average for a starting LF.


and he will be a below league average LF.

DaneMcCloud 12-27-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11980365)
Something I'm sure the suits are taking into consideration but the average fan may not be is that the Royals must remain competitive enough over the next couple of years to ensure that new tv contract is huge. If they mortgage the future to try and repeat year and miss the playoffs and the bandwagon
fan turns on them, they could cost themselves long term tv money.

The TV contract is going to be huge, regardless.

The Diamondbacks signed a 10 year, $1 billion dollar contract last year and they haven't won anything in forever.

Lex Luthor 12-27-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11980365)
Something I'm sure the suits are taking into consideration but the average fan may not be is that the Royals must remain competitive enough over the next couple of years to ensure that new tv contract is huge. If they mortgage the future to try and repeat year and miss the playoffs and the bandwagon
fan turns on them, they could cost themselves long term tv money.

This is very true, and it is an argument to sign Gordon at all costs.

It's a much better argument than just calling the Royals a bunch of cheap bastards and saying David Glass wants to jerk off on the money.

ChiefsCountry 12-27-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11980381)
The TV contract is going to be huge, regardless.

The Diamondbacks signed a 10 year, $1 billion dollar contract last year and they haven't won anything in forever.

Diamondbacks deal including ownership stake in it.

tredadda 12-27-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11980381)
The TV contract is going to be huge, regardless.

The Diamondbacks signed a 10 year, $1 billion dollar contract last year and they haven't won anything in forever.

The Phoenix MSA is much larger than KCs however. That could play a role in it as well.

KChiefs1 12-27-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11980254)
On FS1 now. This is the World Series DVD, in case you were interested.


Very good.

ChiefsCountry 12-27-2015 09:58 PM

Is the DVD good? I got it for Christmas haven't watched it yet. Everyone just got me Royals stuff for Christmas this year. It was pretty sweet.

okcchief 12-27-2015 11:42 PM

My gut feeling is Gordon will wait to try to suck out as much as he can, but in the end stays in KC. I don't think the money difference will be enough to make him want to leave.


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