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The two most encouraging games for me where the San Diego and the last Denver loss. That's why I don't give a shit what his record is because they won some games in spite of him and the lost a few that other cost us where he played well.

I dunno, if he was seen as a stop gap, then I've always thought of that as an okay move, even if it was frustrating in a "we've all seen this before" kind of way.

The alternative is that Dorsey and Reid are geniuses, because there simply wasn't much evidence that he could lead the Chiefs deep into the playoffs (and really, we don't need to go over all of that again... no, really).

Either way, there's still a lot to be determined as far as winning in the playoffs, their plan for Smith and developing a QB, etc; which might not answer that question for at least another year or two.

Guess we can expect another overpay when it comes to his extension.

Yep, those are the types of games you have to win in the playoffs, despite all the stupidity that went on here for weeks about the apparent impossibility of playing in those types of games, because of the awesome defense and the "you can win in more than one way" and bullshit (it's bullshit because of who they were playing at the time, not necessarily because the statement is untrue).

The funniest part is that people around here were crying that the sky was falling after those games, and after weeks of skepticism, I was actually pretty encouraged. LMAO

Yep, we will find out soon enough.

Hell I am more concerned about our defense than I am Smith come playoff time.

Anybody who isn't hasn't been paying attention.

Yep, me to. Those games didn't jive with the whole "He just wins" narrative so most people didn't want to address that he played his best games there.

I think after being up so much they lost focus in the Raider game. They'll get tested these next 2 games.

I've backed off on my Alex Smith bashing.

Now, it's the defense that's been drawing my ire. We need more pressure and better coverage- it's as simple as that. And honestly, I'm hesitant to put all the blame on bad FS play.

When we're getting beat down the sidelines on these go routes, you have to put the blame on the CBs. Cooper's been getting beat like a drum on those since Buffalo. With the amount of single-deep safety looks that we run, can you realistically expect Lewis or Demps to get to either sideline in support every time?

I cannot stop watching this. LMAO

Including his best throw of the day on the wheel route when the game was up in the air as Oakland had cut the score and charged back to within 4 at 31-35. Faced with a crucial 3rd and 1 and really needing to reestablish our offense as well as kill the Raiders momentum, he makes a gorgeous clutch throw not only to secure the 1st down, but score a TD to get the lead back to 2 scores and take the wind out of the Raiders sails.

I'd say that's stepping up and became the critical play in crushing any hopes they had for a comeback as we watched the wheels come off for Oakland after that.

If you want to nitpick and try to devalue his play as pedestrian, feel free, but he came through at the most critical juncture of the game and reestablished our winning that game in dominating fashion instead of it possibly ending in tragic embarrassment once the defense wasn't able to stop them from rushing and passing at will to start the 2nd half!

It was pretty dumb, especially seeing posts about "which team will show up against Oakland?" after they beat the Redskins.... uh, probably the team that plays against shitty teams, as opposed to the team that lost to 3 good teams (or at least 3 good offenses). Some people seem thoroughly confused about strength of schedule to the point that it doesn't even matter who they're playing on any given week.

No wonder this place is so fickle.. it is all about the Ws and Ls, not for the sake of hindsight and it not mattering how they win, but because it really is that black and white.

Yep. Some people don't get you can play well and lose and also play shitty and win. However on a home team board pointing out any flaws in a win is known as "hating" LMAO

Pretty much my sentiments exactly. The Denver games were a bummer, but the good thing is that they are regular season games and that we now for sure have a playoff game to look forward to. I really am putting a lot into this upcoming Indy game as kind of litmus test to determine just how functional this team can be against a quality opponent. I honestly feel that if our Defense can step it back up and our offense plays to even 75% of what they did against the Raiders, Indy, SD, and whoever our first opponent in the playoffs is should be cake.

I am feeling very optimistic right now. I think this is the year that we at least win one playoff game, and any damage to other teams beyond that in playoffs would just be awesome.

Good correction. The best all around team we've played to date is San Diego. Denver is not a team, just a glass cannon with a horrible defense.

on the flip side for some strange reason Cassel is looking much better in purple... I'll tell you what, finding a good NFL QB is strange process. Cassel stinks in kc but as a 3rd string filler in minny he's all of a sudden a different QB. Watch him get another stupidly large contract from a few good games in a viking's uniform. I'll be lmao at whatever team has the idiocy to give him $8m a year to suck.

I've pretty much stopped as well. 11 wins (and counting) is impressive and he pretty much deserves our respect if at least through the end of the season.

You should have NEVER let him out of that bet.

Dude is STILL claiming that he hasn't been wrong.

FYI, ChiefsPlanet is extremely negative in tone, so you have to take what you read here with a grain of salt. This board is not even close to being representative of the fan base.

I think most fans are happy with Alex Smith at QB. Sure, he could be posting better numbers, but he's doing what is being asked of him which is leading the team to wins. He's definitely gotten better as the season went on and as the o-line got better.

A few of us, myself included, thought the price we paid was too high. I guess it's better to pay a premium to get what you want instead of not getting what you want.

The debate was mainly "Will we get the pre-Harbaugh era Alex Smith, or the one he's been the last several years?" I think that question has been answered pretty definitively, we've gotten the good Alex from recent years.

Whether he will prove to be good enough to get us to the Super Bowl in the coming years, who knows.

There were also many games that he looked good for us.

A good game or two does not a good QB make.

I wasn't sure he could handle passing as much as he had. He had a rough stretch at the beginning of the season that I just was like, I cant believe how terrible he is playing.

Now? Im not sure why anyone wouldn't want him as the qb.

He has been everything people said he couldn't be.

And with all the talk about how easy his passes were, no one wants to even acknowledge how great the pass down the LEFT SIDELINE to Bowe was, that Bowe didn't fight for, at all.

The Broncos should trade for him after PM retires, and find out for themselves.

this is true but it only takes one desperate GM or team to show Cassel the $.

Shrugs. Clay doesn't bother me as much as he does some.

And come on, we all know he wasn't leaving.

Getting him to surrender, was well worth it in my opinion.

LMAO oh wait :p

He is about to post career highs in every statistical category.
We got him at the peak of his career to play on a team that was ready to win now. The haters have been completely punked.
The last straw they had to pull on was that he wouldn't be able to win without an elite D.
Well the D tanked and he stepped up to the plate.
We are in no way winning in spite of him as they claimed earlier in the year.
And at his age he has done nothing but improve since the day he was signed.

LMAO

We are 2-3 in the last 5 games, and in the two wins the defense was either in beast mode (Redskins) or forced 5 turnovers (Raiders).

Come ON man.

Let's wait for Alex to beat a good team first, before we crown that ass.

Correct, there are a handful of people who decided to be haters no matter what, and the haters are far louder per capita than everyone else.

I think the ones who are still left care more about being right on the internet than they do about whatever else

I guess him having to pony up 250 to Marcellus will be funny.

Gonna lose all his other bets too it looks like.

Jesus Christ.

What more did you need Alex Smith to do?

He capitalized on almost EVERY turnover yesterday.

He got the ball in space to Jamal Charles, which is what you are supposed to do, and give him a chance.

He threw deep to your boy Bowe.

And Bowe let a midget jump up and knock it down, instead of high pointing the ball.

17-20.

Shake it however you want.

You said this team couldn't win without a top shelf oline, running game, and defense.

Jamal had 20 yards rushing yesterday.

Shrugs.

11 wins mr 7.

Beat a good football team? LMAO

The eagles are a winning team, the Cowboys are a winning team.

Those don't count huh?

We won those games because of defense.

How about we see how the playoffs turn out, then we can crown his ass. That's when the cream rise to the top.

and the Chiefs lost three games because of the same defense.

They didn't lose them because of Alex D Smith.

He'll get 3 cracks in a row and I'm anxious to see how he does then the jury can bring back it's verdict.

Its fair.

I wonder how much the Chiefs will show to the Colts though.

Almost a guaranteed chance that the Colts are who the Chiefs will play.

He spells it out in his post. He wants to see AS have that Raider-type performance against a good team is all. Hopefully against ****ing Indy who seems to have the Chiefs' number.

It's gonna be a lot of fun.

I think claynus and rev. Slick are the only two still beating the alex sucks drum

No, not like beating Denver, Indy, or SD would.

I haven't crowned him yet.

But he was well worth the trade and has shit all over what you said he would be.
He scores points and pushes the ball down the field.

You will just keep moving the posts to make it look like you were not completely and utterly wrong but No One is buying it.
I have stay out of this silly shit and let his play do the talking and I'm going back to that. I'm not gonna keep arguing something that has already been determined.

There is a good chance, but both teams are still fighting for seeding. I can't imagine the Chiefs hold back just expecting the Broncos to win out. Crazy shit happens.

The Foles Eagles are different than the Vick Eagles.

Actually, if the Colts were to win Sunday, there's a decent chance we'd face NE or Cincinnati.

Indy has a legit shot to reach the 2 seed, believe it or not.

Not really.

Jamaal Charles scored a lot of points.

Alex is still not pushing the ball down the field enough.

This post and the other everyone is quoting are very reasonable, its progress... just keep making your appointments with Dr. Leo Marvin and you'll be a full fledged Alexfanatic in no time! :D

Simple

Cure cancer
End Global warming
End world huger
pay off the national debt
discover alien life

All while juggling on one foot blindfolded

It's not that hard

This is true, but I think after 14 games it is safe to say that our offense isn't built to do this.

WINNING

Or he could just win 1 playoff game. It has happened before.

I mean it's not like we haven't seen a middling Chiefs QB throw 5 TDs against a crappy AFC West team before, y'know?

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1295314236

11th in plays over 20 yards IIRC.

And he's only been pushing the ball downfield for 5 or 6 weeks.

He's doing exactly what we said he would once he was comfortable in the offense.
Produce.
Shit, he's actually producing more than I ever thought he would.
The guy hits like 7 different receivers almost every game.
He has played damn well. To deny that that is just being hard headed.

Definitely. The Vick-led Eagles weren't entirely terrible though, just more turnover prone.

People were quick to write them off but they had a stretch where they played the Chargers, Chiefs, then Broncos. Most teams in the league would be lucky to make it out of that stretch with a single win.

Vick went down and Foles stepped up in a big way but they still got slaughtered by the Cowboys and Vikings. Hardly prime cut losses there..

I think we'd beat the Eagles if we played them again with Foles at the helm.

And dont forget throw 50 yard bombs everytime he passes.
Oh, and makes us a sandwich.o:-)

Elvis Grbac seems like your dream QB. Big, strong arm. Complete douchebag. Never wins anything. All the traits in a Clay QB.

You KNOW that's lying through your teeth.

For the season he has just 38 attempts over 20 yards...22nd.

He is not pushing it down the field. He never has and he never will.

http://i.imgur.com/oZmJyyz.jpg

I see what you are doing there...LMAO

LMAO And it better be the best damn sandwich we have ever had

More weak attempts to discredit a player who has completely exceeded your expectations.

I admit he's thrown a few more TD passes than I anticipated.

Other than that, he is EXACTLY what I expected. Is he even going to break the almighty 3,500 yard barrier?

You calling someone out for lying.

This place just keeps on giving.

Alex is basically doing his BEST 2010 Cassel impersonation, just fewer throws down the field.

Won't get fooled again.

I actually just read that somewhere. This thread I think. Didn't research it.


And yes the last 5 weeks has thrown downfield.
Care to show where he would rank?
He has thrown for nearly 300 yards 3 of the last 4 weeks. And was pulled early in the game in 2 of those.

You to have preface that if you also researched what the teams fans have said about their Defenses you'll know that they've been completely shit during this portion of the season.

You admit something that you publicly made a bet with someone on?

That's mighty big of you.

He needs 340 yards in 2 games to hit 3500. Shouldn't be an issue unless he is holding a clipboard in the 4th quarter.

LMAO

That's our Alex.

Woo! 3,500! Ding ding ding! Mr. Prolific.

That's our Clay, wrong again.

No. I'm right. I thought he'd throw for about 3500 yards this year. That's what his pathetic self is capable of.

I hope you are making my $$ right now. I am thinking of buying a playoff ticket with it.

I can go see Alex Smith work his magic in the playoffs.

Basically on the same pace as Russel Wilson, joe Flacco, C Newton, Andrew Luck, And Kaepernick.

Only he has more TDs than ALL of them.

Alternatively he could've acknowledged that if that very same chart is sorted by downfield accuracy, Smith is 2nd in the league:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pictu...pictureid=1431

No, Alex Smith is not going to force a deep ball if he doesn't like what he sees. However, if he does, he's going to put it out there and it's likely going to be a pretty damn good throw.

Alternatively, he could go to the Eli Manning school of just throwing an interception every other drive.

Pathetic? Careful boss. Dunt confuse you and Alex. He actually wins at something. You haven't win a bet yet.

I hate my phone

And he'll get a hair over 400 yards rushing.

The guy's going to have 4,000 yards of total offense with a 3-1 TD/INT ratio and a passer rating in the 90s and this clown is going to keep on bitching about him.

I blame your parents. Clearly they didn't pay an ounce of attention to you in your miserable life.

So according to you he's our "General on the Field"

Don't make me dig up your Pulitzer Prize winning WPI Cassel loving article

For the butthurt...